Klarinet Archive - Posting 000376.txt from 2003/07

From: "Benjamin Maas" <benmaas@-----.com>
Subj: RE: [kl] Help a Luddite with technology! (Recording query)
Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2003 17:35:33 -0400

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Matthew Lloyd [mailto:Matthew@-----.uk]=20
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> I have decided that I want to record some of the Mozart Basset Hound
> trios. Trouble is, I don't know anyone else with a hound and=20
> therefore I
> am going to have to play all three parts!
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> Is there any reasonably easy way of doing this by recording=20
> one part at
> a time? If so, what would I need? Can it be done via=20
> mini-disc? I ask as
> I am about to buy a portable player to record myself practising (self
> criticism and all that) as well as the odd concert that I partake in.
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> Knowing that we have some of those very clever people who understand
> about computers and all that Jazz, I thought I'd ask here. I=20
> assume that
> it isn't a problem to transfer a recording from mini disc to CD?
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> Matthew
>

Nope... You need a recorder with multiple tracks on it... For trios, =
you'll
need a minimum of 3 tracks, 6 if you are recording stereo passes. If =
you
record stereo, make sure you change sitting position so that the image
accurately reflects a normal ensemble.

You'll need to record one part at a time. Second and third parts will =
need
to be played with you wearing headphones so that you can play along with
yourself and get tuning and ensemble together.

As for ways of doing it, nothing good will be cheap. You can do it with
software on a computer (something like Cool Edit Pro or Vegas would =
probably
be the cheapest and easiest way to go about this). Thing is you'll need =
to
be able to listen on headphones from there. Oh yeah, if your headphones =
are
too loud, the mic will also pick that up and it won't sound particularly
good. When everything is recorded, then you'll have to mix it- balance
levels between the tracks, and place it in the image where you want it
(left, center, right...).

There are some stand-alone 4 and 8 track recorders out there. One of =
those
may work for you (get one with an internal hard drive- MD and cassette =
ones
aren't so great- Cassettes sound like $h!t and the MD ones aren't as
reliable). More professional ones you'll need a preamp and mics that =
can
plug into the preamp for you to be able to use it.... =20

Any way you look at it, though, it won't be particularly cheap to do =
what
you want to do. If you want to do it the "pro" way (like a studio or =
person
like myself would) count on spending thousands of $$ to do it.

Some possibilities:

Reel to reel decks- Tascam, Otari are probably the cheapest
Ie
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3D2544125169&category=3D=
41480
Or
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3D2544163573&category=3D=
41480
Or
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3D3034614624&category=3D=
14980

With these, you'll need a mixing board to work with it (like a Mackie =
1202)
and at least one good mic (ie Shure SM81, or similar). For other tapes,
you'll need a second mic for stereo. Tape is expensive, though and =
you'll
still have to digitize it to burn CDs.

http://www.tascam.com/products/portastudios/788/index.php
http://www.yamaha.com/yamahavgn/CDA/ContentDetail/ModelSeriesDetail/0,637=
3,C
NTID%253D2837%2526CTID%253D228500%2526VNM%253DLIVE%2526AFLG%253DY%2526LGF=
L%2
53DN,00.html
http://www.bosscorp.co.jp/en/BR1180.html
http://www.bosscorp.co.jp/en/BR_864.html

Or similar...

--Ben

Benjamin Maas
Freelance Clarinetist and Recording Engineer
Los Angeles, CA
http://www.fifthcircle.com

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