Klarinet Archive - Posting 000288.txt from 2003/07

From: Tony@-----.uk (Tony Pay)
Subj: Re: [kl] Truth and the Philosophy of Music
Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2003 16:03:39 -0400

On Tue, 8 Jul 2003 07:37:32 -0700, raycraft@-----.com said:

> > Someone who was 'clueless' about sound, and heard what Kevin Fay had
> > to say about the importance of having a sound 'in your head', might
> > very well say to themselves, "I haven't a clue what he means by
> > that. What sort of sound could I have in my head?" That would be a
> > good beginning.
>
> True. But in a case like that, they are no longer oblivious to their
> cluelessness, because it has been brought to their attention by
> something someone said.

...and other things in the same vein.

'Being clueless' is not equivalent to 'being oblivious to your
cluelessness'. Thus Dave Kumpf's statement about cluelessness in the
abstract might usefully alert someone to their possible cluelessness.
They'd still be clueless, but beginning to be aware of it.

Then they can get to say, "I'm clueless!" and realise, perhaps,
something they can do about that, too.

In this case, about sound, listening to other players might be a
beginning.

By the way, the point of all this is to say something useful -- as Dave
did. I was simply responding in a civilised fashion to your:

"That's comforting. ;-)"

...which looked ironic. And thoughtless. And flip.

And indeed, unfortunately turned out to be ironic. And thoughtless.
And flip:-(

Tony
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