Klarinet Archive - Posting 000013.txt from 2003/07
From: "Anthony Wakefield" <tony-w@-----.uk>
Subj: Re: [kl] Paedophiles and Clarinets (don't ask......) Was Mr. No-Name
Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2003 11:10:38 -0400
I had problems posting this morning. Apologies if this is the second time
this mail has come round.
> From: "Christy Erickson"
> To: <klarinet@-----.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2003 1:31 AM
>
> Mr. No Name said,
>
> > "Please someone, let this die"
> > James ________
>
> James, I bet you were amazed to see what you started here. This sure is
a lively bunch and there isn't even a full moon right now. It was all a
communication problem, as usual, but it sure doesn't help to have all the
helpers jumping in and twisting words and sentences around, as well as
taking things out of context. I think that's exactly what Tony meant by
school boy tactics. It's so difficult to communicate in an e-mail forum so
if you don't understand something someone said, it helps to ask for
clarification. There also might be a few slight cultural differences
amongst members of this crowd to deal with at time also. (I don't intend for
this comment to set off another bomb either. It's a simple fact). I
initially had a rather negative reaction to your original post also, as it
seemed to not only be inviting, but to encourage negative feedback regarding
Martin's recording in an underhanded sort of way. Most members of this
group certainly do not seem to hesitate to say what they think, at least
that's certainly been my impression in the year or so I have been with this
group. In other words, they don't need anymore encouragement! I think it
would have been fine to say you had not heard any criticism of the
recording, rather than attacking what Tony said and simply meant as a
summary of the comments he had heard thus far. I know you probably didn't
mean it that way-it was just the way it came across due to the manner in
which you worded your post. I have made the same mistake myself when
posting e-mails and so you are forgiven. Tony will forgive you also (won't
you Tony?). Tony's really a pretty good guy when it comes right down to it.
Now you two kiss and make up.
The "eeeeeewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww" you hear in the background
is the sound of my daughter showing her disgust at this one. This from a
child who will readily kiss the dog after the dog has been out rabbit
hunting.
"EEEEEEEEEEEEEEUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUWWWWWWWWWWW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!."
(as I scrub my lips with bleach!)
Christy
Christy,
I think you have written an elegant post. You may be right re cultural
differences, but I`m not going to hide behind them if this is in fact what
they are. I received a post, (I have received two) the first of which has a
quite heart breaking content. This post criticised me in a similar way to
others. I wrote back without an apology, and not promising to end this until
we have everything out in the open, and I received a good reply. Everyone
may view extracts of these in another post. Thanks to you tho` Christie, I
do now have a proposition to put to the list. I will apologise to the list
for the extreme anguish I may have caused, and waste of time and money,(as
much as this has been), all I do believe to have been uneccessary. But in
return I would like apologies from Mark and from
"No-name" for their "he-he" and "more entertaing than the rest of the list"
school boyish remarks, when all I have been doing is to try to intelligently
sort this out as best as can be possibly done. What I cannot apologise for
is my original disagreement with "No-name", and what is essentially an
insignificant (culturally different or not) complaint about speaking for
others, which in this context was no excuse to go to war with me. In
government, yes, but not in a clarinet list! If you wish to act as
go-between, and I believe we need one now, then this would be kind and noble
of you.
I really can`t say any more, nor send any more mail to my perpetrators.
Thanks
Tony Wakefield
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