Klarinet Archive - Posting 001083.txt from 2003/04

From: Roger Shilcock <roger.shilcock@-----.uk>
Subj: RE: [kl] Gran Partita or Gran Partitta
Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2003 00:46:59 -0400

I don't see the relevance of this. *Of course* you know how to pronounce these words - on one view, in spite of the spelling.
Roger S.

In message <BEEKIPADIGHLDLHLPPGCGEKMCDAA.bosma@-----.org writes:
> Not in English, baby. :)
> Through
> Trough
> Thought
> Throughout
> Rough
> Rouge
> Round
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Roger Shilcock
> [mailto:roger.shilcock@-----.uk]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2003 5:19 AM
> To: klarinet@-----.org
> Subject: RE: [kl] Gran Partita or Gran Partitta
>
> "Rules" of pronunciation in a written language *always* involve interference
> from the conventions adopted to write them. There are several norms for
> Spanish pronunciation anyway, so Spanish is a bad example. It also seems
> reasonable to point out that if you are competent at speaking and reading a
> language, you will know how to pronounce the words in it - however they are
> spelt.
> Roger S.
>
>
> In message <20030422.231436.01@-----.org
> writes:
> > On Tue, 22 Apr 2003 15:08:48 -0500, bosma@-----.net said:
> >
> > > For example, in Spanish, things sound just like they look. You can
> > > spell anything in Spanish as long as you can pronounce it correctly.
> > > The rules of pronunciation are very stringent.
> > >
> > > <sigh>
> >
> > I might well sigh myself, Wendy. Here is the bit of my original post
> > from which this subthread sprang.
> >
> > > ....non-Italian speakers may not know that the words 'Partitta' and
> > > 'Partita' would be pronounced slightly differently by an Italian.
> > > Italian, you see, is a sensible language, in which you know how to
> > > spell accurately any word you can pronounce. (This is of course
> > > notoriously not so for English.) So in this case, an Italian waits
> > > slightly longer on the double 't' than on the single 't'.
> > > Non-Italians aren't very sensitised to this difference, but once it's
> > > pointed out, it becomes obvious.
> > >
> > > So my question for Dan is: which pronunciation do you use?-)
> >
> > Apropos 'Gran': sure, it's a shortened form of 'Grande', but it's
> > nevertheless an Italian word, as we see by its use by the Italians in
> > 'Gran Bretagna'.
> >
> > I also don't agree (not even to give a girl a break:-) that 'per',
> > 'con', 'in', 'il', and one or two other words *aren't Italian*.
> >
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