Klarinet Archive - Posting 001069.txt from 2003/04

From: Roger Shilcock <roger.shilcock@-----.uk>
Subj: RE: [kl] Gran Partita or Gran Partitta
Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2003 00:46:45 -0400

"Rules" of pronunciation in a written language *always* involve interference from the conventions adopted to write them. There are several norms for Spanish pronunciation anyway, so Spanish is a bad example. It also seems reasonable to point out that if you are competent at speaking and reading a language, you will know how to pronounce the words in it - however they are spelt.
Roger S.

In message <20030422.231436.01@-----.org writes:
> On Tue, 22 Apr 2003 15:08:48 -0500, bosma@-----.net said:
>
> > For example, in Spanish, things sound just like they look. You can
> > spell anything in Spanish as long as you can pronounce it correctly.
> > The rules of pronunciation are very stringent.
> >
> > <sigh>
>
> I might well sigh myself, Wendy. Here is the bit of my original post
> from which this subthread sprang.
>
> > ....non-Italian speakers may not know that the words 'Partitta' and
> > 'Partita' would be pronounced slightly differently by an Italian.
> > Italian, you see, is a sensible language, in which you know how to
> > spell accurately any word you can pronounce. (This is of course
> > notoriously not so for English.) So in this case, an Italian waits
> > slightly longer on the double 't' than on the single 't'.
> > Non-Italians aren't very sensitised to this difference, but once it's
> > pointed out, it becomes obvious.
> >
> > So my question for Dan is: which pronunciation do you use?-)
>
> Apropos 'Gran': sure, it's a shortened form of 'Grande', but it's
> nevertheless an Italian word, as we see by its use by the Italians in
> 'Gran Bretagna'.
>
> I also don't agree (not even to give a girl a break:-) that 'per',
> 'con', 'in', 'il', and one or two other words *aren't Italian*.
>
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