Klarinet Archive - Posting 000945.txt from 2003/04

From: "deehays" <deehays@-----.net>
Subj: RE: [kl] Gran Partita or Gran Partitta
Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2003 00:44:41 -0400

One thing to be careful is that languages change over time. The Italian of
today is not identical to the Italian of Mozart's time. Plus in everyday
speech (as opposed to formal speech and writing), final vowels are often
dropped. Some in-depth research might be required to see what "rules", both
formal and informal, applied to the language at that time.

> I skipped the first few postings about this because I was skimming
> and that first one was really long. I don't like to respond if I
> haven't been reading the entire thread because I will, inevitably,
> say something wrong. I thought the thread was concerning the second
> word. There is no such Italian word as Grand if that where your
> problem lies. In fact, even Gran has to have been 'imported'.
> Italian words always end in a vowel. Always. Unless they come from
> some other language originally. As for the second word, dude with
> the holy war is right. It should be partitta. :)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Albert Nemiroff [mailto:anemiroff@-----.net]
> Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2003 1:54 PM
> To: klarinet@-----.org
> Subject: Re: [kl] Gran Partita or Gran Partitta
>
> There MUST be at least ONE person on the list who is fluent in
> Italian, who might shed some light of the usage of Gran and Grand. I
> no longer have an Italian dictionary or grammar with which to check
> it. There is a parallel in Spanish. Those same two words are used,
> with a slight difference in intention In my tradition, Dan, may you
> live to 120....in good health. Al.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <GrabnerWG@-----.com>
> To: <klarinet@-----.org>
> Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2003 8:29 AM
> Subject: Re: [kl] Gran Partita or Gran Partitta
>
> . Keep it up and may you live to be 100!
>
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