Klarinet Archive - Posting 001234.txt from 2003/03

From: "Dan Arsenault" <danarsenault@-----.net>
Subj: Re: [kl] flat R-13
Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2003 17:21:11 -0500

I recently had flatness problems like this. I agree with what Kelly says,
but I fixed them with more closed mouthpiece and stiffer reeds. The
difference, in my situation anyway, was in the reeds.

----- Original Message -----
From: "CBA" <clarinet10001@-----.com>
Subject: Re: [kl] flat R-13

> Instead of trying a SHORTER barrel, as you are already at 64mm,
> why not try a DIFFERENT make, also at 64mm? Clark Fobes makes
> wonderful barrels (and he is on the list,) Walter Grabner makes
> great barrels (as I am told from people on the list - and he is
> on the list too,) or maybe Guy Chadash (Buffet) barrels? I know
> my intonation changed a lot when I played different barrels with
> different setups.
>
> How long have you been playing? Did the person who replaced the
> pads play it? I would suppose the person who worked on the
> instrument would say something if they couldn't get it to play
> in tune either.
>
> Do you have other instruments? do you have the same problem on
> other instruments when YOU play?
>
> If the instrument is not from before 1940, I would assume it was
> never meant to play that flat, and I question whether an
> instrument would play flat across the whole range of the
> instrument if it wasn't partially what was going on with the
> player.
>
> By the way, Vandoren "13" series are MEANT to play flatter than
> their regular mouthpieces to accomodate sharp tuned instruments,
> so that could be a possibility too.
>
> Kelly Abraham
> Woodwinds - New York City
> --- Dave Gilbert <dgilbert@-----.com> wrote:
> > I have acquired an R-13 ,serial # 176,xxx that just simply
> > plays flat.
> >
> > With the full length barrel( 66 mm I believe), the horn seemed
> > about
> > 20-25 cents down across the entire range. I've shortened the
> > barrel 2 mm
> > and had the horn given a top quality set of cork pad uppers
> > and double
> > skin lowers. The instrument plays well , but is still a solid
> > 10 cents
> > low-including the throat tones. I can "lip it up" but don't
> > really like
> > to play that tight as the tone suffers. Another player on a
> > different
> > mpc also has similar results.( we have tested with Vandoren
> > and Clark
> > Fobes)
> >
> > My questions; Has anyone run into this before? Is it safe to
> > shorten
> > the barrel even further ?( now about 64 mm) . Other thoughts
> > and ideas
> > appreciated.
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> >
> > Dave G
> > Ann Arbor, MI
>
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