Klarinet Archive - Posting 000867.txt from 2003/02

From: "Elizabeth Berry" <MarchinCharger88@-----.com>
Subj: Re: [kl] The C of C
Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 22:08:10 -0500

Moo! Moo! Moo! And I love the chairs, those are AWESOME.

¬*Elizabeth*¬
I don't suffer from insanity. I actually enjoy every minute of it.

----- Original Message -----
From: "The Ciompi Family" <deal5@-----.net>
Subject: Re: [kl] The C of C

> Got it.
>
> BAHH, BAhh, BAHH!
>
> Arturo
>
> Tony Pay wrote:
>
> > On Mon, 24 Feb 2003 10:06:54 -0800, deal5@-----.net said:
> >
> > > I understand completely, and, as you say, if we were together this
> > > would work its way out best in sound. Yes, the Eb is arrived at fully
> > > and forcefully, then there IS a small decaying of tone before growing
> > > back to the E natural. But we Do grow back to it, (HATE) which I
> > > thought in your original post you did not agree with. Somehow that E
> > > natural must be emphatic in and of itself.
> >
> > [snip]
> >
> > > Does this sound right?
> >
> > Yes, it does sound right to me.
> >
> > In fact, in my original post, I said:
> >
> > > So it's not at all unnatural musically to begin again on the E
> > > (strongly, but lightening) after your diminuendo D# [sic!] and a
> > > snatched breath.
> >
> > ...which agrees with you exactly.
> >
> > This sort of discussion is very interesting to me, because it seems to
> > be very difficult to say clearly that a note, or a passage, need not
> > crescendo in and of itself in order to give the listener the impression
> > that it 'leads' to the next strong point. A good example of that is the
> > opening of Weber's second concerto, where the sixteenth-note run
> > finishes on a high F, sounding Eb, which must obviously be emphatic.
> > But if you tell a student that the end of that sixteenth-note run can
> > profitably be allowed to lighten slightly, and that that will help the
> > accent on the high F, they often look at you in amazement. *Obviously*
> > the run *goes* to the high F, which means, to them, a crescendo
> > throughout.
> >
> > But a crescendo is often best represented on the 'next level up'. If we
> > slightly modify the 'I love you' example, and say very strongly instead,
> >
> > "No, I really LOVE you!"
> >
> > in such a way as to be taken as contradicting the notion in the
> > recipient that I didn't actually like them, and so emphasising the word
> > 'love' very strongly; then evidently the second syllable of the word
> > 'really' is less than the first, *even though the word clearly leads to
> > the subsequent 'LOVE'*.
> >
> > Now imagine it sung by a bad singer. It's not uncommon to hear,
> >
> > "...reaLLY LOVE..."
> >
> > which I maintain is horrible, because the unnecessary local crescendo
> > distorts the words and minimises the meaning. Sometimes local
> > instrumental crescendos distort phrases and minimise meaning, too.
> >
> > Here's another way of looking at it, which will explain the subject
> > header, in case you were wondering.
> >
> > What's this?
> >
> > 000000000000000000000000
> > 000000000000000000000000
> > 00000 00000
> > 00000 | 00000
> > 00000 || 00000
> > 00000 ||___ 00000 OK, it's a chair.
> > 00000 |/__/| 00000
> > 00000 || || 00000
> > 00000 | | 00000
> > 00000 00000
> > 000000000000000000000000
> > 000000000000000000000000
> >
> > What's this?
> >
> > 000000000000000000000000000000
> > 000000000000000000000000000000
> > 00000 00000
> > 00000 | 00000
> > 00000 | | 00000
> > 00000 | | 00000
> > 00000 | |____ 00000
> > 00000 | / /| 00000 OK, it's a bigger chair.
> > 00000 |/____/ | 00000
> > 00000 | | | | 00000
> > 00000 | | | | 00000
> > 00000 | | 00000
> > 00000 00000
> > 000000000000000000000000000000
> > 000000000000000000000000000000
> >
> > What's this?
> >
> > 0000000000000000000000000000000000000
> > 0000000000000000000000000000000000000
> > 0000000000000000000000000000000000000
> > 0000000 0000000
> > 0000000 | 0000000
> > 0000000 | | 0000000
> > 0000000 | | 0000000
> > 0000000 | | 0000000
> > 0000000 | |________ 0000000
> > 0000000 | / /| 0000000 OK, it's an even bigger
> > 0000000 | / / | 0000000 chair! So what?
> > 0000000 |/________/ | 0000000
> > 0000000 | | | | 0000000
> > 0000000 | | | | 0000000
> > 0000000 | | | | 0000000
> > 0000000 | | 0000000
> > 0000000 0000000
> > 0000000000000000000000000000000000000
> > 0000000000000000000000000000000000000
> > 0000000000000000000000000000000000000
> >
> > So, what's this?
> >
> >
0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
> >
0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
> >
0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
> > 0000000
0000000
> > 0000000 |
0000000
> > 0000000 | |
0000000
> > 0000000 | |
0000000
> > 0000000 | | |
0000000
> > 0000000 | | | |________
0000000
> > 0000000 | | | / /|
0000000
> > 0000000 | | |____ | / / |
0000000
> > 0000000 || | / /| |/________/ |
0000000
> > 0000000 ||___ |/____/ | | | | |
0000000
> > 0000000 |/__/| | | | | | | | |
0000000
> > 0000000 || || | | | | | | | |
0000000
> > 0000000 | | | | | |
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> > 0000000
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> >
0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
> >
0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
> >
0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
> >
> > ???
> >
> > It's a CRESCENDO!
> >
> > Of CHAIRS!
> >
> > Get it?-)
> >
> >
0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
> >
0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
> >
0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
> > 0000000
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> > 0000000 |
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> > 0000000 | |
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> > 0000000 | |
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> > 0000000 | | |
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> > 0000000 | | | |________
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> > 0000000 | | | / /|
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> > 0000000 | | |____ | / / |
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> > 0000000 || | / /| |/________/ |
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> > 0000000 ||___ |/____/ | | | | |
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> > 0000000 |/__/| | | | | | | | |
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> > 0000000 || || | | | | | | | |
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> > 0000000 | | | | | |
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> > 0000000
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> > 0000000 louder, LOUDER, !!*LOUDER*!!
0000000
> > 0000000
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> >
0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
> >
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> >
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> >
> > Tony
> > --
> > _________ Tony Pay
> > |ony:-) 79 Southmoor Rd Tony@-----.uk
> > | |ay Oxford OX2 6RE
http://classicalplus.gmn.com/artists
> > tel/fax 01865 553339
> >
> > ... I'm not a complete idiot - several parts are missing.
> >
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