Klarinet Archive - Posting 000772.txt from 2003/02

From: The Ciompi Family <deal5@-----.net>
Subj: Re: [kl] Shepherd on the Rock
Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 15:36:08 -0500

Dear Tony,
I understand completely, and, as you say, if we were together this would
work its way out best in sound. Yes, the Eb is arrived at fully and
forcefully, then there IS a small decaying of tone before growing back to the
E natural. But we Do grow back to it, (HATE) which I thought in your original
post you did not agree with. Somehow that E natural must be emphatic in and
of itself. Then we must retreat and allow our colleague to shine. No male
chauvinism here! Does this sound right?
Would love to meet you some day. Thanks,

Arturo
.

Tony Pay wrote:

>
> You know, Arturo, if we were together with clarinets in our hands, I bet
> we could easily agree -- well, perhaps not agree, but I think you'd be
> less unhappy about what I'm proposing, even if you still wanted your
> crescendo. The trouble is the word, 'diminuendo', which I would have
> been better off not using, because it has the wrong connotations:
> 'precious', 'conceit', 'lose energy' and so on.
>
> Let me try one last time.
>
> Shout at the top of your voice, "I LOVE you!"
>
> ("I HATE you!" would be an even better example, perhaps, because it
> contains no hint at all of any of the connotations you mention above.
> But it doesn't fit with the Schubert, so...)
>
> Now, notice that the end of the syllable 'I', just before 'LOVE', is
> different from the beginning of the syllable 'I'.
>
> What is the difference? Is it lighter? Do we 'do a diminuendo' on the
> 'I', in order to do whatever we do during it? (You might want to say,
> well yes, but....)
>
> Now, do the same thing, but this time hang about on the 'I', so that
> whoever it is you're saying it to has to......WAIT for the 'LOVE' to
> arrive.
>
> "I.......LOVE you!"
>
> (You can try the same thing on "I........HATE you!" if you want to
> really confuse anyone else in the house:-)
>
> It's whatever happens on the 'I' as you say the phrase at full throttle
> that I'm after on that Eb in the Shepherd.
>
> A comma works too, if -- and I agree only if -- it's done right:
>
> "I......, LOVE you!"
>
> And in the Shepherd, the arrival on the E natural/LOVE moment is a
> collaborative effort between all three players. The fact that our ear
> is drawn to the soprano towards the end of our 'I' helps, I'd say.
>
> What do you think?
>
> Tony
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