Klarinet Archive - Posting 000591.txt from 2003/02

From: "Forest E. Aten Jr." <forestaten@-----.com>
Subj: Re: [kl] Impingo Wood Supply for Clarinets
Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 15:24:44 -0500

Paul,

I'll bet that the difference in sound between the Greenline R13 and a wooden
R13 is not any different than when comparing the difference in the sound of
one wooden R13 clarinet to any other wooden R13 clarinet.

If in the blind test...if a person can't tell the difference between
material I'd say Dan made his point????

Forest Aten

----- Original Message -----
From: "pwharris" <pwharris@-----.net>
Subject: Re: [kl] Impingo Wood Supply for Clarinets

> Dan,
>
> Quite simply, you are wrong. In a blind test, yes a group of people would
> not be able to identify which material is which, but they certainly will
be
> able to tell differences between the sounds. This has been shown over and
> over, but of course there are still some who will not accept what is
> demonstrated to them. This is your problem not mine, but I am beginning
to
> resent you continually stating your opinions as fact.
>
> Paul Harris
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dan Leeson" <leeson0@-----.net>
> To: <klarinet@-----.org>
> Sent: Friday, February 21, 2003 7:53 AM
> Subject: Re: [kl] Impingo Wood Supply for Clarinets
>
>
> > Elizabeth, if your interest in wood as the material for a clarinet is
> > related to the inherent beauty of wood, I agree with you that there is
> > nothing like it aesthetically. But if you are of the opinion that there
> > is an inherent characteristic of wood that produces a better character
> > of sound than synthetic materials, then there is a difficutly in
> > accepting that position.
> >
> > We have argued for 10 years on this list about that issue, and the end
> > result is that the nature of the sound one gets out of a clarinet is
> > independent of the material used to make it. There may be some
> > exceptions; i.e., cork might not be a good material, for example. But
> > one really has to stretch to find such exceptions.
> >
> > Bottom line: in a blind test, you (nor I, nor anyone else) could detect
> > wood from glass from plastic from metal from hard rubber, from ossified
> > twinkie.
> >
> > Dan Leeson
> >
> > Elizabeth Berry wrote:
> > > I'm not playing a synthetic clarinet! I'll chop down a tree and make
my
> own,
> > > gosh darn it!
> > >
> > > Elizabeth
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Albert Nemiroff" <anemiroff@-----.net>
> > > To: <klarinet@-----.org>
> > > Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 9:33 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [kl] Impingo Wood Supply for Clarinets
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >>Not all of the metal Bb and A soprano clarinets made so many decades
> ago
> > >>were fit only for lamp making. I had the pleasure of hearing able
> players
> > >>make very good sound with a couple of them. While I muse about what
CNC
> > >>applied to metals, plastic, and hard rubber products could afford us,
> what
> > >>might modern alloys and/or composites, possibly coated with rare earth
> > >>ceramics provide. Yet no one is more captivated by the challenge of
> > >
> > > seeking
> > >
> > >>the blessings of the spirits in mpingo and Arundo donax.
> > >>Al Nemiroff
> > --
> > ***************************
> > **Dan Leeson **
> > **leeson0@-----.net **
> > ***************************
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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