Klarinet Archive - Posting 000241.txt from 2003/02

From: "Forest E. Aten Jr." <forestaten@-----.com>
Subj: Re: [kl] Castelnuovo-Tedesco Question
Date: Sun, 9 Feb 2003 13:24:56 -0500

Sue,

Note difference in words with quotes. hahahaha

Forest

----- Original Message -----
From: "Raycraft" <raycraft@-----.com>
Subject: Re: [kl] Castelnuovo-Tedesco Question

> Is there such a thing as an "older" and independent mind?
> Sue
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Forest E. Aten Jr." <forestaten@-----.com>
> To: <klarinet@-----.org>
> Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2003 9:03 AM
> Subject: Re: [kl] Castelnuovo-Tedesco Question
>
>
> > Dan,
> >
> > The different kind(s) of contributions; as in the offerings by the
"older"
> > more disciplined and/or established mathematician were also discussed
> during
> > the program. These contributions were significant as well...just not
> > apparently dependent on the youthful and "independent" mind. I will find
> > this reference info and try to post it soon.
> >
> > Forest
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Dan Leeson" <leeson0@-----.net>
> > To: <klarinet@-----.org>
> > Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2003 10:39 AM
> > Subject: Re: [kl] Castelnuovo-Tedesco Question
> >
> >
> > > It's absolutely true. The opportunity for a mathematician to do really
> > > creative work almost evaporates after the age of 30. They are simply
> > > too set in their ways, they begin ancestor worship, etc.
> > >
> > > Sir Isaac Newton, who was one of the best, did all of his great work
by
> > > the time he was 17. And the greatest of them all, Alvariste Galois,
> > > died at 21 with only one paper to his name, but that one paper
> > > revolutionized modern matheatmics.
> > >
> > > However, once these fabulous minds settle into middle age, they do
some
> > > pretty good work.
> > >
> > > Dan
> > >
> > > Forest E. Aten Jr. wrote:
> > > > Dan,
> > > >
> > > > I recently listened to an interview on NPR with a contemporary
> > > > mathematician/author promoting his newest book. The book noted this
> > > > phenomena of "original" thought in younger minds. He documented this
> > using a
> > > > historical review of math breakthroughs and noting the age of the
> > > > mathematician at the time. It seems that the older the mathematician
> the
> > > > more "set in their ways".....a few anomalies...but not many in his
> > > > historical review.
> > > > I'll try to find the reference. It's been several months and I while
I
> > was
> > > > intrigued, I wasn't listening well enough to remember the authors
> name.
> > > >
> > > > Forest
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Dan Leeson" <leeson0@-----.net>
> > > > To: <klarinet@-----.org>
> > > > Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2003 10:15 AM
> > > > Subject: Re: [kl] Castelnuovo-Tedesco Question
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >>Marlena wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>> Kk, I think u should go with what YOU want to do; play the
> C#s!
> > > >>
> > > > I
> > > >
> > > >>>mean, in general, if u play music as it is written, it almost makes
u
> > > >>>fall asleep. U have to put yourself into it, change tempo,
dynamics,
> > > >>>right? So I think this rule applies in this case.
> > > >>>
> > > >>
> > > >>That one should do as one wishes and have a completely unfettered
view
> > > >>of how to perform is a point of view often expressed by young people
> who
> > > >>want to feel no constraint working against what they see is their
> > > >>artistic development. And that view has some merit because it tends
to
> > > >>encourage independent thinking. As a result of thinking
independently,
> > > >>the party, if intellectually honest, can go no where but to the
place
> > > >>against which they are arguing so emotionally. So such eventually
> people
> > > >>wind up doing the very thing that they rebelled against.
> > > >>
> > > >>Several years ago, a young woman on this list stated explicitly that
> she
> > > >>was a modern person, unchained from all ideas of the past, and she
> > > >>intended to perform K. 622 in whatever way struck her fancy. I
wonder
> > > >>what happened to her and if she has now become a flaming
conservative.
> > > >>
> > > >>I see Marlena a few years from now telling her children and
eventually
> > > >>her grandchildren that the traditional way is the only way. I do
hope
> > > >>that her written skills get better, though. It is not easy to read
> what
> > > >>she writes. Punctuation Marlena, punctuation!!
> > > >>--
> > > >>***************************
> > > >>**Dan Leeson **
> > > >>**leeson0@-----.net **
> > > >>***************************
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> > > **Dan Leeson **
> > > **leeson0@-----.net **
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