Klarinet Archive - Posting 000233.txt from 2003/02
From: "Raycraft" <raycraft@-----.com>
Subj: Re: [kl] Castelnuovo-Tedesco Question
Date: Sun, 9 Feb 2003 12:28:42 -0500
Hey Forest,
My point is, maybe there is more than one "right way" to
do something, and maybe it's not such a big deal as
some folks make it out to be....
It may be IMPOSSIBLE to ever determine what the "original"
might have been, if the author is no longer with us.
We can wrack our brains over it, I guess. Maybe I'm
just weird, but I really don't see how it is THAT important?
Sue
----- Original Message -----
From: "Forest E. Aten Jr." <forestaten@-----.com>
Subject: Re: [kl] Castelnuovo-Tedesco Question
> Sue,
>
> I have a stone down the street with all kinds of original etching. "set in
> stone".....so to speak....hahahaha
> We could, of course, erase the etched face..(tools can do that)..and then
> rewrite what was originally placed there by the original author. We can
> still call it what we call it now....the "Lundy's Lane" stone. This just
to
> please us???? Objective?????
> hummmmm.....
> I wonder if all of that etching on the stone down the street is original
or
> not?????
> Perhaps a "critical review"...and a bit of research is the key.
>
> Forest
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Raycraft" <raycraft@-----.com>
> To: <klarinet@-----.org>
> Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2003 10:53 AM
> Subject: Re: [kl] Castelnuovo-Tedesco Question
>
>
> > How's about if we could kind of BACK away from being
> > so stubbornly "set-in-our-ways", and look at things more
> > objectively?
> > Then, maybe once we have done that, and we can see
> > that NOTHING is that important, NOTHING is
> > etched-in-stone, then we might be open to all kinds
> > of new ideas?
> > Sue
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Dan Leeson" <leeson0@-----.net>
> > To: <klarinet@-----.org>
> > Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2003 8:39 AM
> > Subject: Re: [kl] Castelnuovo-Tedesco Question
> >
> >
> > > It's absolutely true. The opportunity for a mathematician to do really
> > > creative work almost evaporates after the age of 30. They are simply
> > > too set in their ways, they begin ancestor worship, etc.
> > >
> > > Sir Isaac Newton, who was one of the best, did all of his great work
by
> > > the time he was 17. And the greatest of them all, Alvariste Galois,
> > > died at 21 with only one paper to his name, but that one paper
> > > revolutionized modern mathematics.
> > >
> > > However, once these fabulous minds settle into middle age, they do
some
> > > pretty good work.
> > >
> > > Dan
> > >
> > > Forest E. Aten Jr. wrote:
> > > > Dan,
> > > >
> > > > I recently listened to an interview on NPR with a contemporary
> > > > mathematician/author promoting his newest book. The book noted this
> > > > phenomena of "original" thought in younger minds. He documented this
> > using a
> > > > historical review of math breakthroughs and noting the age of the
> > > > mathematician at the time. It seems that the older the mathematician
> the
> > > > more "set in their ways".....a few anomalies...but not many in his
> > > > historical review.
> > > > I'll try to find the reference. It's been several months and I while
I
> > was
> > > > intrigued, I wasn't listening well enough to remember the authors
> name.
> > > >
> > > > Forest
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Dan Leeson" <leeson0@-----.net>
> > > > To: <klarinet@-----.org>
> > > > Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2003 10:15 AM
> > > > Subject: Re: [kl] Castelnuovo-Tedesco Question
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >>Marlena wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>> Kk, I think u should go with what YOU want to do; play the
> C#s!
> > > >>
> > > > I
> > > >
> > > >>>mean, in general, if u play music as it is written, it almost makes
u
> > > >>>fall asleep. U have to put yourself into it, change tempo,
dynamics,
> > > >>>right? So I think this rule applies in this case.
> > > >>>
> > > >>
> > > >>That one should do as one wishes and have a completely unfettered
view
> > > >>of how to perform is a point of view often expressed by young people
> who
> > > >>want to feel no constraint working against what they see is their
> > > >>artistic development. And that view has some merit because it tends
to
> > > >>encourage independent thinking. As a result of thinking
independently,
> > > >>the party, if intellectually honest, can go no where but to the
place
> > > >>against which they are arguing so emotionally. So such eventually
> people
> > > >>wind up doing the very thing that they rebelled against.
> > > >>
> > > >>Several years ago, a young woman on this list stated explicitly that
> she
> > > >>was a modern person, unchained from all ideas of the past, and she
> > > >>intended to perform K. 622 in whatever way struck her fancy. I
wonder
> > > >>what happened to her and if she has now become a flaming
conservative.
> > > >>
> > > >>I see Marlena a few years from now telling her children and
eventually
> > > >>her grandchildren that the traditional way is the only way. I do
hope
> > > >>that her written skills get better, though. It is not easy to read
> what
> > > >>she writes. Punctuation Marlena, punctuation!!
> > > >>--
> > > >>***************************
> > > >>**Dan Leeson **
> > > >>**leeson0@-----.net **
> > > >>***************************
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