Klarinet Archive - Posting 000229.txt from 2003/02

From: "Raycraft" <raycraft@-----.com>
Subj: Re: [kl] Castelnuovo-Tedesco Question
Date: Sun, 9 Feb 2003 12:22:08 -0500

Is there such a thing as an "older" and independent mind?
Sue

----- Original Message -----
From: "Forest E. Aten Jr." <forestaten@-----.com>
Subject: Re: [kl] Castelnuovo-Tedesco Question

> Dan,
>
> The different kind(s) of contributions; as in the offerings by the "older"
> more disciplined and/or established mathematician were also discussed
during
> the program. These contributions were significant as well...just not
> apparently dependent on the youthful and "independent" mind. I will find
> this reference info and try to post it soon.
>
> Forest
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dan Leeson" <leeson0@-----.net>
> To: <klarinet@-----.org>
> Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2003 10:39 AM
> Subject: Re: [kl] Castelnuovo-Tedesco Question
>
>
> > It's absolutely true. The opportunity for a mathematician to do really
> > creative work almost evaporates after the age of 30. They are simply
> > too set in their ways, they begin ancestor worship, etc.
> >
> > Sir Isaac Newton, who was one of the best, did all of his great work by
> > the time he was 17. And the greatest of them all, Alvariste Galois,
> > died at 21 with only one paper to his name, but that one paper
> > revolutionized modern matheatmics.
> >
> > However, once these fabulous minds settle into middle age, they do some
> > pretty good work.
> >
> > Dan
> >
> > Forest E. Aten Jr. wrote:
> > > Dan,
> > >
> > > I recently listened to an interview on NPR with a contemporary
> > > mathematician/author promoting his newest book. The book noted this
> > > phenomena of "original" thought in younger minds. He documented this
> using a
> > > historical review of math breakthroughs and noting the age of the
> > > mathematician at the time. It seems that the older the mathematician
the
> > > more "set in their ways".....a few anomalies...but not many in his
> > > historical review.
> > > I'll try to find the reference. It's been several months and I while I
> was
> > > intrigued, I wasn't listening well enough to remember the authors
name.
> > >
> > > Forest
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Dan Leeson" <leeson0@-----.net>
> > > To: <klarinet@-----.org>
> > > Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2003 10:15 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [kl] Castelnuovo-Tedesco Question
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >>Marlena wrote:
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>> Kk, I think u should go with what YOU want to do; play the
C#s!
> > >>
> > > I
> > >
> > >>>mean, in general, if u play music as it is written, it almost makes u
> > >>>fall asleep. U have to put yourself into it, change tempo, dynamics,
> > >>>right? So I think this rule applies in this case.
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >>That one should do as one wishes and have a completely unfettered view
> > >>of how to perform is a point of view often expressed by young people
who
> > >>want to feel no constraint working against what they see is their
> > >>artistic development. And that view has some merit because it tends to
> > >>encourage independent thinking. As a result of thinking independently,
> > >>the party, if intellectually honest, can go no where but to the place
> > >>against which they are arguing so emotionally. So such eventually
people
> > >>wind up doing the very thing that they rebelled against.
> > >>
> > >>Several years ago, a young woman on this list stated explicitly that
she
> > >>was a modern person, unchained from all ideas of the past, and she
> > >>intended to perform K. 622 in whatever way struck her fancy. I wonder
> > >>what happened to her and if she has now become a flaming conservative.
> > >>
> > >>I see Marlena a few years from now telling her children and eventually
> > >>her grandchildren that the traditional way is the only way. I do hope
> > >>that her written skills get better, though. It is not easy to read
what
> > >>she writes. Punctuation Marlena, punctuation!!
> > >>--
> > >>***************************
> > >>**Dan Leeson **
> > >>**leeson0@-----.net **
> > >>***************************
> > >>
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> > **Dan Leeson **
> > **leeson0@-----.net **
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