Klarinet Archive - Posting 000660.txt from 2002/11

From: "WILLIAM SEMPLE" <wsemple@-----.com>
Subj: Re: [kl] GreenLine clarinets
Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2002 23:58:08 -0500

I have owned (several went up in a house fire) BuffetR-13s and Prestige
pairs. The best R-13 I have ever played I bought this year at a local band
store. That, and discovering that the Van Doren 5RVLyre and V12 reeds work
better than anything I have tried in forty years...

In almost every regard: the quality of its tone (deeper, darker, bigger,
richer); intonation; balance; the keywork; the silverplate -- are superior
to the older instruments with the exception of an R-13 built in 1959 that is
definitely, ah, brighter sounding (though just as pleasant).

I am wondering if some of the excellent reports on the Greenline is due to
the possibility that the manufacture of Buffets is improving?

The question of why clarinets of the same model sound and play differently
fascinates me. I'd like to learn more. All I know is in playing more than
fourteen instruments while looking for a spare, this R-13 just leapt out of
the pack and I felt absolutely compelled to buy it last May. The more I play
it, the more in love with this horn I have become.

Bill

>From: "Joseph H. Fasel" <jhf@-----.gov>
>Reply-To: klarinet@-----.org
>To: klarinet@-----.org
>Subject: Re: [kl] GreenLine clarinets
>Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 14:32:28 -0700
>
>Forest,
>
>Thanks for your reply. I think you're probably right about these
>minute manufacturing differences, yet I still wonder. It seems to
>me that the sorts of things technicians do in undercutting or filling
>tone holes--for fairly subtle effects--would be somewhat grosser than
>what I would expect machining tolerances to be. I could suggest an
>experiment: Get Francois Kloc to tweak several Greenlines of the
>same model, not messing with the body but just adjusting the action,
>checking all the pads, and so forth. Then have several professional
>clarinetists see if they can identify individual instruments in a
>double-blind environment.
>
>Cheers,
>--Joe
>
>On 2002.11.14 09:34 Forest E. Aten Jr. wrote:
> > Joe,
> >
> > Even microns make a big difference.
> > Bore, tone holes....vents in both thumb and register key holes. Many
> > variables.
> > Simple things such as when the clarinet bore was cut in the life of the
> > bit......can make a huge difference.
> >
> > Forest
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Joseph H. Fasel" <jhf@-----.gov>
> > To: <klarinet@-----.org>
> > Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2002 10:26 AM
> > Subject: Re: [kl] GreenLine clarinets
> >
> >
> > > I'm just wondering: I understand that the Greenline material is
>supposed
> > > to be much more uniform and stable than solid wood. If that's the
>case,
> > > why is it still necessary to pick a clarinet from among a selection?
> > > Why aren't the instruments nearly identical? Maybe the bodies are
>quite
> > > consistent but the adjustment and regulation varies?
>Joseph H. Fasel, Ph.D. email: jhf@-----.gov
>Decision Modeling and Analysis phone: +1 505 667 7158
>University of California fax: +1 505 667 2960
>Los Alamos National Laboratory post: D-7 MS F609; Los Alamos, NM
>87545
>
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