Klarinet Archive - Posting 000511.txt from 2002/11

From: "Christy Erickson" <perickso@-----.net>
Subj: RE: [kl] Dark Sound - Inappropriate language-Annie
Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2002 23:55:39 -0500

Annie, I spent a semester of my college years in Northamptonshire,
England, and as I recall the British are a bit "loose with their
language" at times. As a Mom with two children and a music teacher I
also object to Tony's choice of words. We all slip sometimes, but Tony
is one of our leaders on this group (one of our clarinet gurus) and I
have great respect for his work. I don't know for certain, but he may
have thought, as some of the British do, that we Americans are quite
liberal and "free" but this is not the truth and he needs to know that.
At the time I visited England, I was 19 and I worked in a community home
of education for troubled boys. These boys all had a stereotype of
American girls that we were all "California Beach Girls" who would sleep
around with anyone-they got this from TV of course. I think it's
important that we dispel this myth. Tony has taken a bit of guff about
his nationality, but it is my impression that this was only in response
to comments Tony has made about Americans. I don't think Tony hates
Americans-he might just enjoy the lively banter. However, he did get a
little too lively that time with his choice of words. I'm glad you
recognize the fact that Tony simply may have lost his temper that time
as we all do. That doesn't make it right, however. I just recently
received a speeding ticket (I was 20 miles over the limit-OUCH). I can
try to justify it all I want but it was not safe to do and even though
I've never received a speeding ticket before in my life, that doesn't
mean I wasn't out of line that time. Unfortunately I now have to pay
for it. OUCH again-$187.00 Christy Erickson

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gene Nibbelin [mailto:gnibbelin@-----.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 9:56 AM
> To: klarinet@-----.org
> Subject: RE: [kl] Dark Sound - Inappropriate language
>
> Anne -
>
> I don't remember anything that should have "provoked" Tony. He
> gratuitously
> insulted all Americans and I am surprised that no one else objected to
his
> gross bad manners. Can he hate America and all Americans THAT much?
>
> Gene N.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Anne Lenoir [mailto:AnneLenoir@-----.net]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 10:19 AM
> To: klarinet@-----.org
> Subject: RE: [kl] Dark Sound - Inappropriate language
>
> I personally don't care whether or not Tony Pay uses language like
that
> or not on our list. I think he was provoked and responded to the
> provocation. Tony has not lost his temper in a long time and has be
> one of the most valuable contributers of our list. I am not worried
> about his language corrupting our youth.
> By the way, Tony, my friend and wonderful clarinet student from
our
> list, David Kumpf, gave me one of your CD's to listen to of Mozart
> K-622, and I consider it to be one of my prized possessions. The only
> other CD I have of K-622 is Robert Marcellus, which is also great. I
> feel that I now have the best 2 recordings in the world of that
> composition, and you can cuss as much as you want. ANNIE
>
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