Klarinet Archive - Posting 000515.txt from 2002/09

From: CBA <clarinet10001@-----.com>
Subj: RE: [kl] My attempt to formalize my unstructured ideas
Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 16:04:33 -0400

Wasn't the original Petrushka question related to the edition
change, which was OK'd by Stravinsky, and the A clarinet, which
was EASIER to play, WAS the first edition, and then Stravinsky
changed that to Bb for a newer edition, for which the key and
finger combinations were much harder to play in, thus getting
rid of the clarinet change, even though it made it infinitely
more difficult?

Would that supposition that Stravinsky knew what he was doing be
superseeded that maybe, just maybe he really did it for either
ease of clarinet change (which accidentally made it
harder...which Stravinsky wouldn't have known about, since he
didn't play clarinet) or for the copyright money for a new
edition?

THAT was the beginning of the thread. It did go WAY out about
the substitution of clarinets in other pieces, but it was
directed towards TRANSCRIPTIONS which were not the composer's
original intention anyway.

In both cases, I would definitely use the A clarinet since it
facilitates the piece better. I believe Stravinsky WANTED the A
clarinet in Petroushka originally, and if it is easier, all the
more reason. I believe that a transcription isn't the composer's
original vision usually, so I have no problem using a clarinet
in a better key to facilitate that.

I don't think this has anything to do with composer's idea of
orchestral color palate, as the first was originally scored with
the easier instrument, and the second was a band transcription
of an Arnold piece.

Now the Three Pieces (Strav) would be VERY strange all on
Bb...that's a different story.

What about D parts for orchestra? How many people play a D
clarinet (or can afford one)?

Kelly Abraham
Woodwinds - New York City

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Daniel Leeson [mailto:leeson0@-----.net]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2002 2:11 PM
> To: klarinet@-----.org
> Subject: [kl] My attempt to formalize my unstructured ideas
>
>
<<SNIP>>
Thus substituting a clarinet in A in the Petrushka for the
called
for clarinet in B-flat because "it sounds better" is perceived
as
tolerable, not because it really does sound better (who is the
authority on that?), but because it is harder to notice such a
substitution. The nuance in sound character difference between
the two instruments is more subtle than the proposed
substitution of a soprano saxophone for a clarinet in the Verdi
example.

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