Klarinet Archive - Posting 000269.txt from 2002/07

From: Larry Paikin <larrypaikin@-----.net>
Subj: Re: [kl] Illiteratates - And question
Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2002 13:31:44 -0400

Kevin,

"As you may recall me saying,..."
Isn't saying a gerund, thus requiring...recall my saying...?

My 2 cents' worth is in Canadian funds, so it's really only USD 0.0130439.

Larry.

Kevin Callahan wrote:

> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Gene Nibbelin" <gnibbelin@-----.com>
> To: <klarinet@-----.org>
> Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2002 8:51 PM
> Subject: RE: [kl] Illiteratates - And question
>
> > Callahan -
>
> You may call me Kevin. I'm not used to being addressed by people as
> "Callahan" without some sort of military rank. Granted if you have rank,
> we'll have to change how we address each other.
>
> > Touché on the misspelling. What it proves is that my language knowledge
> > exceeds my typing ability.
>
> That was Mr. Berwald, though I agreed with the sentiment.
>
> > I know that this isn't a language List but when I see you American
> > youngsters disregarding the rules of the written English language, it
> upsets
> > me because I know how important the art of writing is to ones success in
> > life.
>
> Disregarding is a purposeful act. As you may recall me saying, I am an
> English major. I am a writer primarily. While I love music, it is a
> secondary field of interest. People make mistakes. This is a clarinet list.
> It is not an essay list. It is not even a clarinet essay list, though I am
> sure those are welcome. As long as people try to make an effort I have no
> problem with their mistakes. Granted, purposeful disregard is a completely
> different thing. It upsets me as much as it does you.
>
> Also I assume you are not American by your reference to "you American
> youngsters." Isn't that a bit insulting and condescending? I believe it was
> our President Truman who after hearing another general say "those British
> bastards" he replied, "Call a man a bastard if you wish, but don't tie it to
> the man's nationality." I am a youngster, that isn't America's fault, and I
> had a good education, though it was public. Your reference to our public
> school system is also not America's fault. If any political level is to be
> blamed, it's the states. Here every school system differs by location. I can
> assure you that Frisco High School, of Frisco, Texas is one of the best in
> the state. I would go further to bet it's one of the best in the US. My
> English teachers inspired me to become part of their ranks. I think they did
> a wonderful job.
>
> > In my business career I discarded many resumes after reading only
> > about half of the cover letter because the poor writing immediately told
> me
> > that they were not educated enough to qualify for the job opening that we
> > had.
>
> That is quite a different forum from the Klarinet, is it not? Some of us are
> professionals, but not all. We have expert players, university students
> trying to get there (like myself), and high school students. You cannot
> expect the kind of writing found in a resume to be found on such a list. Not
> to mention it'd be a little dry wouldn't it? I don't recall any humour in
> the last resume I filled out.
>
> > The ability to write well and communicate well is very important for
> success
> > in life. When someone reads what you have written, they learn a great
> deal
> > about you. Write well and you create a good impression. Write poorly and
> > you create a poor impression. It is that simple.
>
> I agree with your first sentence (obviously as my goal is to be an English
> teacher), but not the second. People can draw conclusions from your writing,
> but they may be wrong. Write well and you do create a good impression, but
> it's not always necessary to create such a professional impression. In this
> case I think the clarinet list is more about sharing our love of that
> instrument. It can be a forum for improving our writing skills but only if
> we do more than yell at those who do not write as they could.
>
> Kevin Callahan
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------

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