Klarinet Archive - Posting 000032.txt from 2002/07

From: Karona Poindexter <poindka@-----.net>
Subj: Re: [kl] constitution (was Music vs. drug testing)
Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2002 13:22:52 -0400

It may not be that they search people for no reason but for the wrong
reasons. Sometimes they search people because of the way they look.
This truly can be insulting.

On Sunday, June 30, 2002, at 10:51 PM, Bill Hausmann wrote:

> At 06:08 PM 6/30/2002 -0400, Jeremy A Schiffer wrote:
>> > I hardly think Bill is going that far. This is a degree thing we're
>> arguing.
>> > I don't think Bill wants to give up any of his rights, and certainly
>> doesn't
>> > support a national identity check on every corner.
>>
>> no, bill was not directly going that far, but it's not just an issue of
>> degree. if you subscribe to the logic of "if you don't have anything to
>> hide, you should always agree to being searched" which is clearly
>> bill's
>> argument, then you can't argue against any type of identity checks
>> without
>> fundamentally contradicting yourself.
>
> I sincerely doubt that police departments make a routine practice of
> searching people on the street for no reason. If nothing else, they
> simply do not have the time. On those rare occasions when they may
> mistakenly stop an innocent person, the process can be expedited
> considerably by cooperation, and turned into a long and arduous process
> by making a "federal case" out of it. When they find nothing, sue them
> for harassment or false arrest later.
>
>
>
> Bill Hausmann bhausmann1@-----.net
> 451 Old Orchard Drive
> Essexville, MI 48732 ICQ UIN 4862265
>
> If you have to mic a saxophone, the rest of the band is TOO LOUD!
>
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