Klarinet Archive - Posting 000020.txt from 2002/07

From: Bill Hausmann <bhausmann1@-----.net>
Subj: Re: [kl] Music vs. drug testing
Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2002 09:02:39 -0400

At 10:19 PM 6/30/2002 -0500, Kevin Callahan wrote:
> > There we go again. There IS no right to privacy in the Constitution. And
> > teenagers, living under their parents' roofs and under their protection
> > (even from themselves) have even LESS right to privacy.
>
>I live with my parents three months out of the year, and I would disagree
>with you. There is a right, granted a limited one. I would not begrudge my
>parents entrance to my room, but I would be upset if they started searching
>for something. I am not a criminal, I have nothing to hide that is illegal.
>I do however have things that I don't want my parents to see. I never
>discuss my relationships with my parents, for one. Just never have. I don't
>speak of my online dealings with the exception of any meetings. I may be an
>adult, but I agree with the idea of restricting internet access. If I had
>gone off alone to meet someone I met online, I'd not only expect spanking,
>I'd deserve one. Oh, I'm curious, may I ask the gender of your child?
>Granted, you don't have to tell me.

The older two are daughters. My son is 17. A few years ago, he was
restricted in his internet use to times when I was at home. He is
unrestricted now. I'm not a control freak!

>I have never been a druggie and I have never taken a gun to school. I was
>never even in a fight in high school. The worst I did, and I'm eternally
>embarrased by this, is break some stuff in an angst-ridden teen tantrum. It
>remains the worst episode in my life, but it was one of the key factors in
>me understanding my place as the child. I do take offense at your
>insinuation my parents have done anything less than an exlemplary job
>raising me. Schools should be a place of learning, not the military, or
>worse yet, a prison. Not that I have any tolerance for troublemakers. I
>never was one, so I took great offense at team punishment. Just because my
>parents understood the balance, the transition of independence, not to
>mention their right to raise me (opposed to the school's, like you suggest)
>you say they're bad parents? If it was so, I hardly think I'd be arguing
>socio-political theory with you on a clarinet mailing list.

All indications here are that they did a fine job of raising you. But not
everyone does as well. The schools need to maintain discipline so that
those who WANT to learn can do so free of distractions. "Team" punishment
has always annoyed me, too, but if nobody is willing to finger they guilty
party...

>Yes, the criminal behavior is happening. It has been happening. The answer
>to solving crime has never been taking away rights, unless you're on one
>extreme of the political spectrum or the other.

The only "right" I want to see taken away is the "right" of criminals to
break the law and get away with it.

Bill Hausmann bhausmann1@-----.net
451 Old Orchard Drive
Essexville, MI 48732 ICQ UIN 4862265

If you have to mic a saxophone, the rest of the band is TOO LOUD!

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