Klarinet Archive - Posting 000745.txt from 2002/06

From: Karl Krelove <karlkrelove@-----.net>
Subj: RE: [kl] Navy Band
Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2002 09:53:43 -0400

Well. be careful. "Non-commissioned Officers" are still "enlisted"
personnel. Last I knew anything about it the players in the Special Bands
(which include the D.C. bands) were automatic E6 = army Specialist 6 (I
don't know the equivalent rank names in the other services) after a
probationary period, which is the same pay grade as a Staff Sergeant.
Promotion is available, mostly for re-enlistment. When I was in the Field
Band there were some Master Sergeants (E8) and a couple of Sergeant Majors
(E9 - top enlisted rank). These are all enlisted ranks, and in the army, at
any rate, the Specialist ranks (E5-E7) have no command authority anywhere.
The administrative staff of the band (director-commanding officer, assistant
director-executive officer, the administrative assistant, the leader of the
advance team that set up our tours, etc.) were all commissioned officers
from 1st lieutenant up through full colonel. Copyists, equipment managers,
office receptionists, etc. were all enlisted people.

Not that this much detail matters to most of the list members, and the
recruiters MAY explain this accurately and clearly to any prospective
enlistees, but I thought I'd put in my recollection.

Karl Krelove

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Lawrence Whitney [mailto:phoenix_811@-----.com]
> Sent: Saturday, June 22, 2002 9:13 AM
> To: klarinet@-----.org
> Subject: RE: [kl] Navy Band
>
>
> The members and conductors in all of the DC bands are a different matter
> however. They are ALL officers of various ranks.
>
> Larry Whitney
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bill Hausmann [mailto:bhausmann1@-----.net]
> Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 11:20 PM
> To: klarinet@-----.org
> Subject: Re: [kl] Navy Band
>
> At 09:46 PM 6/21/2002 -0500, Kevin Callahan wrote:
> >Uhm... topic, topic... Does anyone know any thing about the Navy band? I
> get
> >appointed midshipman at Rice University in January, and since my minor is
> >music, I'm wondering, is there anyway I can continue my playing while I'm
> >in? Oh, yes, and is there a difference between enlisted players
> and officer
> >players?
>
> If I am not mistaken, in military bands there ARE NO officer players. All
> players are enlisted; DIRECTORS are officers, or in some cases, warrant
> officers. At one point in my Air Force career I heard they were looking
> for band directors, but the personnel people made it VERY clear to me that
> I would NEVER be released from duty as a flying officer to be a band
> director.
>
>
>
> Bill Hausmann bhausmann1@-----.net
> 451 Old Orchard Drive
> Essexville, MI 48732 ICQ UIN 4862265
>
> If you have to mic a saxophone, the rest of the band is TOO LOUD!
>
>
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