Klarinet Archive - Posting 000741.txt from 2002/04

From: Tony@-----.uk (Tony Pay)
Subj: Re: [kl] Tony Pay, Articulation and K. 622
Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 13:10:25 -0400

On Thu, 25 Apr 2002 18:40:47 +0200, paolo.leva@-----.se said:

> What are the editions that in your opinions get closer to the original
> manuscripts, according to what you and Pay hold. I have the
> Barenreiter editions of the concert and 2 editions for the quintet:
> the "Breitkopf & Hartel" (with really lots of long slurs) and the
> Peters edition.

I'd say that the Baerenreiter is as close as you'll get to
the original, for both concerto and quintet. It's not perfect, but the
competition is too messed about with.

> It would be surely interesting to "try out" (as Antony Pay says) a
> different way of phrasing, but I need to have some source.

Exactly not, I'd say. The point is, you *don't* need a source. (I'm
assuming here that by 'a different way of phrasing' you mean 'a
different articulation'. If not, and you *are* talking about phrasing,
then read my article.)

You can 'try out', as you put it, anything, including what's in the
other editions. It's a question of whether you think the result of your
tryout makes the piece 'live better as a piece of Mozart' than what
happens when you do exactly the articulations that appear in the
Baerenreiter; and to make that judgement you obviously need a way of
assessing it that's independent of the 'authority' of the other
editions. I described some of the ways in which you may assess it in my
post.

Of course, the problem only arises if you think that the Baerenreiter is
'underspecified' with regard to articulations.

> I also wonder whether these arguments apply to Weber as well, being
> him both a classicist and a preromantic. I have both the Breitkopf &
> Hartel and the Peters edition of the first concert and they differ
> quite a lot, not only in slurs but even in notes, ornamentation and so
> on. Being the Breitkopf & Hartel much more edited, and much similar,
> for instance, to what Leister plays.

Discussion of all that is in the Klarinet archives. You go to:

http://www.woodwind.org/Databases/LogsIndex/index.html

and enter your search words.

Tony
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