Klarinet Archive - Posting 000564.txt from 2002/04

From: Glen Shannon <gshannon@-----.com>
Subj: Re: [kl] Prestige RC vs. Prestige R13
Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2002 14:50:59 -0400

Either way it suggests something both hilarious and disturbing about
the way our brains perceive the outside world!

It's only noon here in San Francisco. -Glen

>Sorry...
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>Psychology Today....man I'm I tired.
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>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Forest E. Aten Jr." <forest_aten@-----.edu>
>To: <klarinet@-----.org>
>Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 1:42 PM
>Subject: Re: [kl] Prestige RC vs. Prestige R13
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>> Wine tests....
>>
>> Just published in: Physiology Today.
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>> They colored white wine using red food coloring, then presented this wine
>in
>> a fancy bottle to a group of wine "experts"....they loved it, using many
>of
>> the descriptive terms one might expect to hear from the wine "expert".
>> Same test later that day with the cheap white wine (in it's original
>> bottle). Results in from these same expert judges.......was
>> definitive....."this wine stinks"?????
>>
>> Woops....
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Glen Shannon" <gshannon@-----.com>
>> To: <klarinet@-----.org>
>> Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 1:22 PM
>> Subject: Re: [kl] Prestige RC vs. Prestige R13
>>
>>
>> > This sounds exactly the same as when people talk about wine! The
>> > vocabulary is different but they all still mean nothing to me.
>> > "Delicate", "robust", "clean finish" etc. Forgive me for being a
>> > boor, but I can taste tannins or not, and can judge in a blind test
>> > whether a wine is red or white but that's about all.
>> >
>> > -Glen
>> >
>> > >Now having said that (and with absolute sincerity, no kidding), I have
>> > >to add that I see you as a victim of a disease known as meaningless
>> > >clarinet terminologitis. Referring to sound character of a clarinet
>> > >with expressions that have little meaning and certainly no definition
>> > >whatsoever, you have succumbed to using descriptions that are, in my
>> > >opinion, useless.
>> > >
>> > >One of the things about the character of clarinet sound is that many
>> > >clarinetists (and for years, too) have come to speak about it in ways
>so
>> > >imprecise, so inexact, so totally without substance, that the world has
>> > >turned on its head and nice people like you get sucked into the vortex
>> > >of believing that there is (in your words) a sound that "is a little on
>> > >the 'tinny' or 'thin' side" or a sound that is "thicker," "fatter," or
>> > >"darker."
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