Klarinet Archive - Posting 000561.txt from 2002/04

From: "Forest E. Aten Jr." <forest_aten@-----.edu>
Subj: Re: [kl] Prestige RC vs. Prestige R13
Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2002 14:42:56 -0400

Wine tests....

Just published in: Physiology Today.

They colored white wine using red food coloring, then presented this wine in
a fancy bottle to a group of wine "experts"....they loved it, using many of
the descriptive terms one might expect to hear from the wine "expert".
Same test later that day with the cheap white wine (in it's original
bottle). Results in from these same expert judges.......was
definitive....."this wine stinks"?????

Woops....

----- Original Message -----
From: "Glen Shannon" <gshannon@-----.com>
Subject: Re: [kl] Prestige RC vs. Prestige R13

> This sounds exactly the same as when people talk about wine! The
> vocabulary is different but they all still mean nothing to me.
> "Delicate", "robust", "clean finish" etc. Forgive me for being a
> boor, but I can taste tannins or not, and can judge in a blind test
> whether a wine is red or white but that's about all.
>
> -Glen
>
> >Now having said that (and with absolute sincerity, no kidding), I have
> >to add that I see you as a victim of a disease known as meaningless
> >clarinet terminologitis. Referring to sound character of a clarinet
> >with expressions that have little meaning and certainly no definition
> >whatsoever, you have succumbed to using descriptions that are, in my
> >opinion, useless.
> >
> >One of the things about the character of clarinet sound is that many
> >clarinetists (and for years, too) have come to speak about it in ways so
> >imprecise, so inexact, so totally without substance, that the world has
> >turned on its head and nice people like you get sucked into the vortex
> >of believing that there is (in your words) a sound that "is a little on
> >the 'tinny' or 'thin' side" or a sound that is "thicker," "fatter," or
> >"darker."
> >
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