Klarinet Archive - Posting 000277.txt from 2002/04

From: gene keyes <keyes@-----.net>
Subj: [kl] Re: klarinet Digest 8 Apr 2002 08:15:01 -0000 Issue 3737
Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2002 15:28:52 -0400

Hi Gary.........

I played the original show on B'way in the 60s and early 70s. Be glad to
help you if I can. Please use the above address.
thanx/gene

At 08:15 AM 4/8/2002 +0000, you wrote:
>klarinet Digest 8 Apr 2002 08:15:01 -0000 Issue 3737
>
>Topics (messages 52415 through 52421):
>
>C clarinet on ebay
> 52415 by: George Kidder <gkidder@-----.org>
>
>Fiddler on the Roof - clarinetist in the pit
> 52416 by: "Gary Smith" <asemsi@-----.com>
> 52417 by: Daniel Leeson <leeson0@-----.net>
>
>A few newbie questions (long)
> 52418 by: "Mark Tomita" <marktomita@-----.com>
> 52419 by: "Lacy, Edwin" <el2@-----.edu>
>
>Fw: Tues 7PM Greece Band rehearses
> 52420 by: "admoon1" <admoon1@-----.net>
>
>Need some biographical material
> 52421 by: Oliver Seely <oseely@-----.edu>
>
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>Date: Sun, 07 Apr 2002 20:51:14 -0400
>To: klarinet@-----.org
>From: George Kidder <gkidder@-----.org>
>Subject: C clarinet on ebay
>Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20020407204637.02bdcbe0@-----.org>
>
>A C clarinet has appeared again on ebay. I have been in contact with the
>seller about this instrument, and it seems from the measurements that it is
>a C clarinet with a Bb bell and possibly Bb barrels as well - both barrels
>and bell are plastic. This item was withdrawn last time it was offered,
>after I questioned whether it was an intact C clarinet. It has now been
>relisted with the identical description as before. Go carefully!
>
>http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=856271269
>
>George Kidder
>Bar Harbor, ME
>
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>
>Date: Mon, 08 Apr 2002 01:14:29 +0000
>To: klarinet@-----.org
>From: "Gary Smith" <asemsi@-----.com>
>Subject: Fiddler on the Roof - clarinetist in the pit
>Message-ID: <F25NuIkdg0MZMtjQ4S800000df6@-----.com>
>
>Anyone ever done this book? I'm playing the Reed II book, which is all Bb
>clarinet, in a local production of Fiddler on the Roof, and would like to
>ask a few questions (off-list) of an experienced hand...
>
>Join the world's largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail.
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>
>Date: Sun, 07 Apr 2002 18:25:10 -0700
>To: klarinet@-----.org
>From: Daniel Leeson <leeson0@-----.net>
>Subject: Re: [kl] Fiddler on the Roof - clarinetist in the pit
>Message-ID: <3CB0F176.AFA30CF8@-----.net>
>
>I've played both books, but prefer the 2nd because it doubles on bass
>clarinet, so you get paid more. The first book is fun because it has a
>lot of klezmer style solos including the wonderful nightmare scene.
>
>Good luck.
>
>Dan Leeson
>
>Gary Smith wrote:
> >
> > Anyone ever done this book? I'm playing the Reed II book, which is all Bb
> > clarinet, in a local production of Fiddler on the Roof, and would like to
> > ask a few questions (off-list) of an experienced hand...
> >
> > Join the world's largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail.
> > http://www.hotmail.com
> >
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>--
>***************************
>** Dan Leeson **
>** leeson0@-----.net **
>***************************
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Sun, 7 Apr 2002 19:07:16 -0700
>To: <klarinet@-----.org>,
> "'Terry B.'" <terryb99@-----.com>
>From: "Mark Tomita" <marktomita@-----.com>
>Subject: RE: [kl] A few newbie questions (long)
>Message-ID:
><!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAC6mnvm+HUU2pabusoAuzJIKAAAAQAAAA+jaErLM0AUucQG1eLiyIlQEAAAAA@-----.com>
>
>I'm using a Harrison Hertz inverted ligature - got it for under $20 at a
>local music store. I think he passed away, and I don't think anyone is
>replicating or mass producing them. Sound is more alive and
>articulartion is clearer than the Bonade, Rovner, Luyben, Vandoren, BG,
>or Peter Spriggs' floating ligature.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Terry B [mailto:tbroyles99@-----.com]
>Sent: Sunday, April 07, 2002 9:27 AM
>To: klarinet@-----.org
>Subject: RE: [kl] A few newbie questions (long)
>
> >
> > Terry, you know what?
> >
> > It sounds as if YOU have caught the clarinet bug from your daughter!
>
>:-) Don't know if I have caught the bug or not. I do tend to try to
>learn as much as I can about certain things. The internet is making the
>learning process easier, as long as you remember to filter out the
>chaff. (I almost used another word instead of chaff, but I don't want to
>start that thread again.) ;)
>
> >
> > I would not worry too much about whether or not she wants to major in
> > music in college at this point. I WOULD begin to save some money in a
>savings
> > account just in case she does, so you won't be caught unawares when
>the
> > time
> > comes to upgrade to a better level clarinet. Don't worry too much
>about
> > buying a set of two clarinets, etc. If she does get really serious
>about
> > clarinet, I'd suggest a youth orchestra BEFORE college,
>
>She is enrolled in the Seattle Youth Symphony's Marrowstone-in-the-City
>summer camp this summer and will be auditioning for one of their
>orchestras next season.
>
> > and there are used A
> > clarinets out there for much less than you would pay for a new one. I
> > would not suggest a brand new horn before college, to be truthful,
> > unless
>you
> > are
> > fairly well off. I do not, of course, presume to make your decision
>for
> > you; I simply am aware of the expense involved, and would not want you
>to
> > buy something unless your daughter is well on the way to a career in
> > music.
>
>We rented for a while, and just recently purchased, with the advice of
>her instructor, a new Buffet B-12. It is plastic, but after a complete
>set-up and adjustment by an excellent repair person, it plays excellent
>and should withstand the trek thru middle school and into high school.
>If she is still serious, then we will look at upgrading. Used is a
>definite option. We just purchased an excellent 1974 Bach Strat trumpet
>for our son, saving about 600.00 vs. a new one, and by most opinions,
>got a better horn than a new one. Our son is at the level that he
>understands trumpets and appreciates the quality and sound of a
>"vintage" model. At where our daughter is, I don't think she would have
>appreciated a great used wood model clarinet as much as a shiny new one.
>And the Buffet B-12, looks like wood. :)
>
> >
> > One thing to be aware of - there are many careers she could have in
>music
> > besides performing. Teaching, of course, is another possibility.
>Music
> > therapy is also a growing field. Music business is quite the thing
>these
> > days - in many urban and suburban areas there is a large enough
>population
> > to support more than one music store.
>
>Fortunately, we have a while before we have to think about this. :) It
>would be nice to get her ability up to maybe get some scholarship help,
>if not her major.
>
> >
> > Now, for the clincher - why don't YOU learn how to play clarinet?
>Yes,
> > sir,
> > YOU sir!
> > I know, I sound like Dr. Seuss! However, I am entirely serious. Not
>only
> > do adults make fine learners, this would be an excellent way for you
>to
> > not
> > only spend more time getting to know more first hand about something
>that
> > interests your daughter, but it would be a fun hobby for you as well
>as a
> > way to let off some steam! Plenty of adults need a way to "vent"
>after a
> > long frustrating day at the office or out in the field or wherever
>they
> > work, and they often find tooting on a horn to be just the thing.
> >
> > Since your daughter seems to be a quick study, perhaps she might get
>YOU
> > started on the basics. And maybe, she might be ready to upgrade to an
> > intermediate level horn, and you could take over the plastic Bundy,
>Vito,
> > or
> > whatever. If not, why not pick up a clarinet at a pawn shop? Perhaps
> > your daughter's teacher could help you pick out one that is in good
> > working order. I have been known to go with prospective students to
> > the local shoppes and play on a few of them and pick out the ones that
>
> > play so
>the
> > students can get started. This works well for folks who are serious
>and
> > don't want to rent.
>
>I got a kick out of this, but no, I don't see a clarinet in my future.
>If I were ever to get the bug, keyboards or guitar would be my first
>choice. :-)
>
> >
> > As far as mouthpieces, reeds, etc:
> >
> > I suggest the Clark Fobes "Debut" though there are also other fine
> > beginner mouthpieces. The Debut is priced very reasonably (I think
> > you
>probably
> > have
> > noticed already that I am a teacher for those on a budget! I suppose
>it
> > is
> > because I myself am of very limited means and have to really pinch my
> > pennies!) and its sound is very smooth throughout all the registers.
>
>We have an appointment scheduled with her instructor to try out about 10
>different Vandoren mouth pieces at our local music store.
>
> >
> > Reeds: many folks use Vandorens, but I do NOT suggest them for
>beginners.
> > Way too inconsistent. I suggest LaVoz medium soft, or Rico Grand
>Concerts
> > 2's or Mitchell Lurie 2's (the Gold Box regulars). Any of these three
> > brands will do ok to start. Normally adults will not take as soft a
> > reed as
>a
> > child, though if there is an asthma or other respiratory ailment, then
> > that has to be taken into account.
>
>She just switched to a Fibracell soft, and she loves it.
>
> >
> > Ligature - a regular or inverted Bonade will do just fine, and is
> > reasonably priced. If you want, however, you can get a Rovner.
> > However, I do
>not
> > think it really matters.
>
>I will have to ask her instructor about ligatures. We have not ever
>talked about them. I have recently learned thru this list that they can
>even make a difference. I just thought of them as a clamp to hold on the
>reed. :)
>
> >
> > Anyway, whatever you decide to do, best of luck to you and your
>family.
> > You
> > sound like a wonderful dad!
>
>Thanks....<blush>
>
>Terry and Chong Ye
>
> >
> > Patricia A. Smith
> > pattiesmith@-----.net
> > "I am so insecure that I went on jury duty and was sent home because I
> > kept finding myself guilty." - Dan Leeson
> >
>
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>Date: Sun, 7 Apr 2002 22:32:02 -0500
>To: "'klarinet@-----.org>
>From: "Lacy, Edwin" <el2@-----.edu>
>Subject: RE: [kl] A few newbie questions (long)
>Message-ID: <E5F75587D181D3119D000090277E05C905BE4D40@-----.edu>
>
><<<I'm using a Harrison Hertz inverted ligature - got it for under $20 at a
>local music store. I think he passed away, and I don't think anyone is
>replicating or mass producing them.>>>
>
>I use the Harrison ligature on clarinet and alto and tenor saxophone, and
>like them very much. There were two types of Harrison ligatures, the
>"silver," which was silver or nickel silver plated brass, and the "gold"
>which was unplated gold lacquer. I much prefer the gold ones.
>
>Several of mine have broken due to long and repeated use, because the metal
>is very thin at a couple of points. Fortunately, I have found an instrument
>repair person who can repair them so that you can't tell where they were
>broken. (He make me swear that I wouldn't tell anyone else that he had that
>ability. He says it would cost more to repair one that it would to buy a
>replacement ligature.)
>
>I have been told that Vandoren is going to make a replica of the Harrison
>ligatures. I hope that is true, and that their version will be as good as
>the original was.
>
>Ed Lacy
>University of Evansville
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2002 01:39:30 -0400
>To: <klarinet@-----.org>,
> "Cheryl Kaminsky" <c_kaminsky@-----.com>,
> "Annette Grape" <acgrape@-----.com>,
> <community-music@-----.com>,
> "gregg bryant" <gbryant1@-----.com>,
> <bass-clarinet@-----.com>
>From: "admoon1" <admoon1@-----.net>
>Subject: Fw: Tues 7PM Greece Band rehearses
>Message-ID: <008301c1debf$c21a7c40$d307d140=celery>
>
>This is from another list and wanted to be posted here for all to see.
>
>This is a great band, and we need single reeds and double reeds.
>
>====================
>*Al*
>admoon1@-----.net
>====================
>----- Original Message -----
>From: <Greeceband@-----.com>
>To: <Greeceband@-----.com>
>Sent: Sunday, April 07, 2002 7:01 PM
>Subject: Tues 7PM Greece Band rehearses
>
> > Director Glenn Call has returned from his spring break trip to Siberia,
>with
> > some good stories, and possibilities of an invitation to conduct and solo
> > with some Russian Orchestras.
> >
> > Greece Concert Band directed by Glenn Call rehearses Tuesdays 7-9PM at
>Greece
> > Arcadia Middle School, 130 Island Cottage Road, Greece, NY.
>
> >Greece is the NorthWest suburb of Rochester, NY.
> >
> > Please FORWARD this email to anyone who plays clarinet, percussion, oboe,
>or
> > bassoon, or invite them in some other way. Other instruments are welcome,
> > but we really need the above instruments.
> >
> > Welcome back to clarinetist John Vettere!
> >
> > DIRECTIONS TO THE REHEARSAL SITE:
> > Website for the Greece Concert Band is
> > www.greeceband.org
> > click on Arcadia Middle School for a Map.
> >
> > From Rochester, take 390 north past Ridge Road to the Latta Road Exit
>(exit
> > 26) Turn right onto Latta Road, and take the next left (at the Mobile
> > Station) onto Island Cottage Road. The school is on the right about a
>block
> > north. Skip the first entrance to the High School, and take the second
> > entrance to the Middle School. (See Phone Book Yellow pages map 4,
>quadrant
> > F6)
> >
> > Entering the double door, take a short left, then right down a long
>corridor.
> > Then left at the music posters. Go past the orchestra room to the band
> > room, which is in the North east corner of the building.
> >
> > I am looking forward to seeing you there.
> >
> > Joe Baker
> > 244-4015
> >
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Sun, 07 Apr 2002 23:28:24 -0500
>To: klarinet@-----.org
>From: Oliver Seely <oseely@-----.edu>
>Subject: Need some biographical material
>Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20020407232514.00a36290@-----.edu>
>
>In the preface to the edition of Popper's Serenade for Bass Clarinet and
>Band I'd like to include some information on the transcriber/arranger,
>Guido Pettinari. All I've been able to find out about him is that he was
>virtuoso bass clarinetist who played in the LA Philharmonic and was a
>Hollywood studio musician in the late 30s.
>
>Can anyone on the list expand on that? Thanks,
>
>Oliver
>
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>
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