Klarinet Archive - Posting 000141.txt from 2002/04

From: Glen Shannon <gshannon@-----.com>
Subj: Re: [kl] Re: Another type of slide
Date: Wed, 3 Apr 2002 13:13:43 -0500

Hi Kelly,

Ah-ha, thanks for all your info- I was thinking about the wrong
octave Eb. The long Eb is three leger lines and a space below the
treble staff, not the bottom line of the treble staff- Duh, that's
why it's called l-o-n-g.

btw is there a standard way of notating clarinet fingerings in ASCII?
In the keyless recorder world we assign numbers to our fingers, with
0 as the left thumb, then 1-2-3 for the left hand, and 4-5-6-7 for
the right hand (left pinky is not used). Since we don't have keys
it's pretty easy to convey a fingering in e-mail. If I'd known about
a clarinet standard I might have made my ideas clearer in my last
post.

I had no idea there was such a plethora of clarinet types, features,
models, etc... I learned to play "the clarinet" in school as a kid,
and the only things we were concerned about was wood or plastic. I've
learned quite a lot about the instrument since joining this list-
I've even started playing my Pedler all-metal instrument again after
about ten years (and noticed the C/F key needs a little adjustment)!
The instrument case has two Pedler mouthpieces (one just has V-12 or
V-8 or something on it) and 6 Rico 2-1/2 reeds in there.

Glen

>Glen,
>
>The long Bb/Eb mentioned is the note a half step below
>the end of the chromatic scale most modern clarinets
>have. The addition of this key to the fingering system
>is called "Full Boehm" which sometimes includes the
>articulated G#/C# and sometimes includes the fork
>Bb/Eb, both of which are NOT standard on most french
>clarinets.
>
>The Bb you were mentioning is the Bb ABOVE the one for
>this key, as the extra key in *this* case doubles as
>the throat Bb pitch, but is still a long fingering in
>the clarion register (third line Bb.) The Bb for the
>clarion register would come in handy to give more
>options for crossing the break (or not having to cross
>the break, as the case may be.)
>
>The full Boehm system is more common in Italy, than
>other countries (not sure why.) Since there are very
>few instances in orchestral literature where you need
>a low Eb on a Bb clarinet, people usually transpose to
>A clarinet for that part (playing a low E to get the
>same note as a low Eb on the Bb Clarinet.)
>
>Different companies make this added key on a number of
>their models. Makers that come to mind are Wurlitzer,
>Patricola, Rossi in present times, and other companies
>in the past. I don't think Selmer offers it as an
>option anymore here in the US, but may in Europe, as
>might Buffet, LeBlanc, and Yamaha to Europe. I'm sure
>a clarinet manufacturer, like Steve Fox would be up
>for making a full boehm system clarinet, since he does
>custom work, and does make basset clarinets down to
>low C.
>
>Any music store people know more about the full boehm
>system and where to get it? Lisa A. from International
>Music Suppliers? Bill H.?
>
>Kelly abraham
>Woodwinds - New York City
>--- Glen Shannon <gshannon@-----.com> wrote:
>> What is the long Eb/Bb? I saw it today on the oboe
>> site mentioned
>> earlier (doing a search for "banana key"). I guess
>> I'm just not hip
>> to the lingo. I'm familiar with three ways to get
>> that note- using
>> finger 3 (left hand) on the thin little key beneath
>> the second hole
>> in the top joint, using a key at the same level to
>> the right of that
>> note, and using just the index fingers of each hand.
>> Is one of those
>> also known as a "long" fingering, or is there still
>> another way? Or
>> is this too basic a question in a room full of
>> professional players
>> with whole collections of customized instruments.
>>
>> Glen
>>
>> >Yes. My Selmers have the articulated C#/G# on the
>> right side. I wanted it
>> >particularly because I have never been able to
>> trill evenly with the left
>> >little finger. (I also have the left Eb/Ab key.)
>> I got all of the extra
> > >keys except the long Eb/Bb key -- and sometimes
> > wish I had just gotten the
> > >full Boehm system.
> > >
> > >Jim Hobby
>
>
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