Klarinet Archive - Posting 000088.txt from 2002/04

From: Mark Gustavson <mgustav@-----.com>
Subj: Re: [kl] Shocking
Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2002 19:32:01 -0500

How does civility fit in here? No laws were broken. Too bad a discourse
amongst "whoever cared to recognize each others realities" didn't truly break
out , then perhaps we would have had a dialectic and learned something about
ourselves rather than resorting to a variety of mindless worn out cliches.
Ignoring that we are all individuals and not a part of some group be it the
moral, the amoral, the swear word haters, the swear word lovers, the bored,
thee polite, etc. is unartful. If someone wanted to use a certain word, that's
how that person wanted to be revealed. One should have addressed the person
who wrote it. It was about that person and whomever else. It's not about what
is right. It's about recognizing a person other than ourselves.

This discussion has to do with clarinet because clarinet is a way to realizing
music. To understand art one must go to it. How one goes about this thread
reflects the way one goes about the clarinet. Tony has strengthened the person
he is to me because I have a better idea of who Tony is than I did before. I
wish I had had the chance to jump in sooner.

Mark Gustavson

Bill Hausmann wrote:

>
> But how do you KNOW that a roomful of clarinet-playing nuns will NOT read
> it, either directly on the list, or through the archives later? Why would
> a man of your reputation particularly wish to present yourself as a boor to
> these innocent people? If you and I were talking one-on-one in my living
> room, your full vocabulary could be used without complaint from me. I only
> get embarrassed FOR you when you allow it to be broadcast indiscriminately
> to the entire globe.
>
> >What that means is that we have to bring all of ourselves to music when
> >we play, and that what is 'appropriate' can never be determined by mere
> >superficial conformity. Indeed, sometimes what's required looks very
> >much like *inappropriateness* to begin with.
>
> Yes, I suppose we SHOULD bring all of ourselves to MUSIC. But one of the
> things we should bring with us to internet DISCUSSION of clarinet-related
> issues is civility.
>
> >In my view, to let the wussiness that's just been surfacing here pass
> >without resistance is to insult you all. You're worth more than that.
>
> Actually, I was hoping that you considered us to be worth enough that you
> would treat us with respect. Your inability, or unwillingness, to do
> that, as I said before, reflects badly upon you.
>
> Bill Hausmann bhausmann1@-----.net
> 451 Old Orchard Drive
> Essexville, MI 48732 ICQ UIN 4862265

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