Klarinet Archive - Posting 000645.txt from 2002/03

From: "David B. Niethamer" <dnietham@-----.edu>
Subj: Re: [kl] Daphnis and Chloe question
Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2002 10:43:35 -0500

I'm sitting here with 5 things in front of me - Durand score (miniature -
how do people read these things?), Dover score (1989) a republication of
the 1913 Durand score, a photocopy of my Durand part (from a RSO
performance in the early 80's), a photocopy of the part to the complete
ballet, Kalmus (1989, ed. Clinton Nieweg) and Hadcock "Working
Clarinetist"

Blake asked:

>I have a note question about Daphnis...one measure before 216. In my old
>orchestral part the fourth sixteenth note of that measure is an A#...in
>Peter Hadcock's Orchestral Clarinetist book the fourth note of the measure
>before rehearsal 216 is a G#.
>Which one of these notes is correct?
>
on 3/21/2002 5:54 PM, Lori Lovato wrote:

>There are several note mistakes in the parts that we usually see and the one
>you mention above is G#.
>
scores both show G# here, as does Hadcock and Kalmus. I corrected my
Durand part at some point to reflect this also.

>Another one is 3 measures after 162, the 3rd note from the end of the bar
>should be an Eb, same with the previous beat.
>
Scores both show Eb here, as does Hadcock. I corrected my Durand part,
but interestingly enough Niewig missed this one - the mistake persists in
Kalmus (1989)

>Also at 168 the 9th note in the 2nd part should be an F.
>
In my Durand part this mistake shows on the first *AND* third beats - 2nd
measure is correct, third measure is a "repeated measure" symbol. Scores
both show F at this place, in octaves with the first clarinet part. In
Kalmus, the first beat is fixed, but the third beat is fixed rather
badly, so it looks confusing. 2nd part not in Hadcock.

>Also one measure before 208, the run should be C#, D#, E,F#, G#, A#.
>
Correct in both scores. Correct in Hadcock and Kalmus. I fixed my Durand
part. In looking at the score, it seems possible that a copyist working
in haste might have copied some of the Bass Cl in Bb accidentals into the
Clar in A part at that measure,

>Oh yes, then there's the 7th measure after 209, it should be a chromatic
>run.

Correct in both scores. Correct in Hadcock and Kalmus. In Durand, the
second D is marked with a natural, which is an obvious mistake.

>You might also check the second measure after 216, I think the C# and D#
>should be C and D, but I'm not sure on this one.
>
Hadcock definitely marks this, and it's what I've always played (not that
that makes it right!). The scores are vague on this point - the C and D
are not marked with naturals after the dotted "bar line" that subdivides
the 5/4 measure. But the flutes and violins play A-B-G#-A on this beat,
which corresponds to C-D-B-C on A clarinet, so those naturals must be
right. The parts are not "fixed" either in Durand or Kalmus, but if you
look at the part layout, you can see that the second part has no sharps
in the bar (it has rests at the beginning), so the naturals are logical
when they come in. So the first part should presumably be the same.

>Hope this helps! We try to notate mistakes so we don't have to go through
>the
>same problems the next time we play something. If anyone else has any
>others
>mistakes or disagrees with the ones mentioned I would be happy to hear!

Then there's the Firebird, and the Kalmus/MacAllister Firebird!

Oh Joy!

David

David Niethamer
Principal Clarinet, Richmond Symphony
dnietham@-----.edu
http://members.aol.com/dbnclar1/

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