Klarinet Archive - Posting 000549.txt from 2002/03

From: "fred.sheim" <fred.sheim@-----.net>
Subj: Re: [kl] R-13 and intonation. . .good grief
Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 14:49:03 -0500

Then I would suppose that we have to define the term "in tune." EITHER the
meter OR the piano is "in tune", as defined as being in agreement with our
predefined "in tune" frequencies. I always assumed that the meter was
BUILT in accordance with what we define as "in tune", which is the reason
we buy meters in the first place. So if I peg the meter on every note,
then I am in tune too. Are we saying that pianos are usually tuned out of
tune?

So, how's by you?...

Newly HOPELESSLY confused.

Fred

At 11:33 AM 3/20/02, you wrote:
>"fred.sheim" wrote:
>
> > At 09:01 AM 3/20/02, you wrote:
> >
> > >...Even if you could 'put the needle in the middle' of the tuner on every
> > >note,
> > >you would still be out of tune a significant portion of the time...
> >
> > How do you figure that? Isn't that the same as saying "even if you play
> > every note in tune, you would still be out of tune?"
> >
> > Confused again..
>
>Fred,
>Go to the nearest well-tuned piano. Play your scales in perfect tune with the
>piano. Now, go take a meter and see if the piano is in "mathematical" (12th
>root) tuning (most meters are set for this type of tuning). You'll find a
>well-tuned piano is by no means "mathematically" tuned due to physical
>factors.
>
>Which means that a clarinet that pegs the needle every time isn't "absolutely
>in tune" every time. Tuning is a lot more complex that it seems.
>
>Mark C.
>
>
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