Klarinet Archive - Posting 000182.txt from 2001/12

From: "Ms. Sherwin" <surewin120@-----.com>
Subj: [kl] Re: klarinet Digest 8 Dec 2001 09:15:01 -0000 Issue 3500
Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2001 14:16:45 -0500

I have a question on double-jointedness. I was
searching the net on double-jointed fingers, and I
found a couple webpages which said that those with
double-jointed thumbs should not play the clarinet,
but didn't explain why. Does anyone know why?

I'm double-jointed, and I was trying to find out how
to get my fingers to move freely, without getting
stuck. Does anyone have any suggestions?

Lorie

--- klarinet-digest-help@-----.org wrote:
> klarinet Digest 8 Dec 2001 09:15:01 -0000 Issue 3500
>
> Topics (messages 49391 through 49412):
>
> V's in Nielsen Concerto
> 49391 by: "Mark Charette" <charette@-----.org>
> 49392 by: "Doug Sears" <dsears@-----.net>
>
> Subject: Material...was: Clarinet Bores - not me -
> the internal dimension kind.
> 49393 by: "Don Yungkurth" <clarinet@-----.net>
> 49399 by: GrabnerWG@-----.com
>
> Material...was: Clarinet Bores - not me - the
> internal dimension kind.
> 49394 by: Daniel Leeson <leeson0@-----.net>
> 49395 by: Daniel Leeson <leeson0@-----.net>
> 49396 by: Daniel Leeson <leeson0@-----.net>
> 49397 by: GrabnerWG@-----.com
> 49401 by: "Tim Roberts" <timr@-----.com>
> 49403 by: Bill Hausmann <bhausmann1@-----.net>
> 49410 by: "Karl Krelove" <kkrelove@-----.com>
>
> Sound character of my basset horn (redux)
> 49398 by: Daniel Leeson <leeson0@-----.net>
> 49400 by: Steve White <shwhite2@-----.net>
>
> Key oil and bore oil usage; was how often?
> 49402 by: "Patricia Smith"
> <pattiesmith@-----.net>
> 49404 by: "Ragnhild Kristine Brekke"
> <rkbrek99@-----.no>
> 49409 by: "Karl Krelove" <kkrelove@-----.com>
>
> Northwestern
> 49405 by: Mark B <markbmtl@-----.com>
>
> how often?
> 49406 by: Mark B <markbmtl@-----.com>
>
> new member
> 49407 by: Mark B <markbmtl@-----.com>
>
> Banjo
> 49408 by: agalper <agalper@-----.com>
> 49411 by: Neil Leupold <leupold_1@-----.com>
> 49412 by: David Renaud <manonrivet@-----.ca>
>
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> Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2001 15:23:48 -0600
> To: <klarinet@-----.org>
> From: "Mark Charette" <charette@-----.org>
> Subject: RE: [kl] V's in Nielsen Concerto
> Message-ID:
> <AGEIKNDAJOKEIOHFKLEIOEGGCGAA.charette@-----.org>
>
> You may want to check out :
>
>
http://www.sneezy.org/clarinet/Study/NielsenNotes.html
>
> and
>
> http://www.sneezy.org/clarinet/Study/Nielsen.html
>
> Mark C.
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Stephen C. Moore
> [mailto:stmoore@-----.edu]
> > Hey gang, I'm sure this is an easy question. I'm
> studying the Nielsen
> > Concerto and would like some clarification on the
> V marks I see all over
> > the part. I believe they are suggest or required
> breathing spots, my
> > instructor believes they are the spots where the
> orchestra enters. The
> > following explanation is printed at the top left
> of my part:
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2001 13:22:17 -0800
> To: <klarinet@-----.org>
> From: "Doug Sears" <dsears@-----.net>
> Subject: Re: [kl] V's in Nielsen Concerto
> Message-ID: <006301c17f65$3fe548e0$0fbabdcf=BigD>
>
> > The following explanation is printed at the top
> left of my part:
> > V = Vejrtraekning
> > V = Atemholung
>
> Atemholung is German for the taking of breath.
>
> --Doug
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2001 17:11:00 -0500
> To: "Klarinet" <klarinet@-----.org>
> From: "Don Yungkurth" <clarinet@-----.net>
> Subject: Subject: Material...was: Clarinet Bores -
> not me - the internal dimension kind.
> Message-ID: <001001c17f6c$0fca5b80$d89f69d1=eznet>
>
> Walter Grabner quoted someone:
>
> << The assumption that material has little or no
> effect on tone ......>>
>
> and proceeded to give his personal experience with
> barrels of various
> materials. He said (greatly edited)
>
> >I am going to dispute this assumption, and dispute
> it vigorously.
>
> >Material DOES make a difference, and we as
> clarinetists know that
> instinctively.
>
> HUGE CUT
>
> >Please let me know....I know you all WILL.....what
> you think of my
> hypothesis.
>
> I've read Dan Leeson's traditional rebuttal about
> the lack of science and
> basically agree that there is no such thing as a
> single variable experiment
> (which he didn't say). Essentially this argument is
> that, "If everything
> were equal, everything would be equal". While
> trained in science myself,
> I'm of the belief that most of these discussions
> fall into the large gray
> area where the opinion of those skilled and/or
> successful in the art is of
> greater value than scientific attempts.
>
> That said, my own personal experience, along with
> the demonstrations of a
> wonderful player and teacher, indicate that what the
> individual player of
> the
> clarinet hears is not necessarily the same as what
> is heard a few feet away
> or in row 25 of a theater.
>
> I wonder what a person familiar with Walter's
> playing would have said about
> the difference in sound from the different barrels.
> When I experimented
> with Legere reeds, I was pleased that my wife could
> not tell the difference
> in my sound between cane and plastic. At a chamber
> music week last summer,
> I had string players come up to me and ask if it
> were really true that I was
> using plastic reeds. They said pleasant things
> about my sound!
>
> Oh yes, the individual ears are an important
> variable. I can't tell if
> someone is using a glass mouthpiece.
>
> Don Yungkurth (clarinet@-----.net)
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Fri, 07 Dec 2001 17:47:21 EST
> To: <klarinet@-----.org>
> From: GrabnerWG@-----.com
> Subject: Re: [kl] Subject: Material...was: Clarinet
> Bores - not me - the internal dimension kind.
> Message-ID: <180.59bd30.2942a101@-----.com>
>
> Don Y says:
>
> << I wonder what a person familiar with Walter's
> playing would have said about the difference in
> sound from the different barrels........>>
>
> Don, that is indeed what happened. Several people
> with whow I have played for over five years have
> come up to me and inquired about the "improvement"
> in sound.
>
>
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