Klarinet Archive - Posting 000152.txt from 2001/11

From: ggholson <ggholson@-----.edu>
Subj: [kl] Re: klarinet Digest 3 Nov 2001 21:15:02 -0000 Issue 3432
Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2001 19:26:26 -0500

On Saturday 03 November 2001 15:15, you wrote:
> klarinet Digest 3 Nov 2001 21:15:02 -0000 Issue 3432
>
> Topics (messages 48573 through 48585):
>
> clarinetist's block
> 48573 by: "Naomi Kyle" <kyle1835@-----.edu>
> 48576 by: "Stan Geidel" <sgeidel@-----.net>
> 48577 by: Jay Niepoetter <Niep@-----.com>
> 48578 by: ClarinetStudioUK@-----.com
> 48580 by: AnneLenoir@-----.net (Anne Lenoir)
> 48582 by: "Mindy Pyle" <mmariep2@-----.com>
>
> remove from group response
> 48574 by: StillLoveNewYork@-----.com
>
> Decision '76
> 48575 by: Bill Hausmann <bhausmann1@-----.com>
>
> Shostakovich 10
> 48579 by: "Heinemann, Stephen" <sjh@-----.edu>
>
> Luby D Jackson
> 48581 by: DGross1226@-----.com
>
> Masters programs in Music Therapy
> 48583 by: "Patricia Smith" <pattiesmith@-----.net>
> 48584 by: AnneLenoir@-----.net (Anne Lenoir)
>
> Mouthpiece life
> 48585 by: David Renaud <manonrivet@-----.ca>
>
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> Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2001 07:42:09 -0500
> To: <klarinet@-----.org>
> From: "Naomi Kyle" <kyle1835@-----.edu>
> Subject: RE: [kl] clarinetist's block
> Message-ID: <NEBBIMKICLHBMKCCBLNHGEIPCBAA.kyle1835@-----.edu>
>
> HI Jess,
>
> I just experienced the same thing, right at the time that everyone was
> expecting the most from me. It was extremly frustrating. BUT I GOT THROUGH
> IT!! It took a lot of extra practice and determination. It is really
> important that you do not give up and keep that determination up. I went
> back and just starting working on etudes and technique exercises I had
> already done. I also took a break, from practcicing hours upon hours, i
> took a couple days and relaxed becuase it was causing me to get way too
> upset and stressed out. I haven't figured out exactly what I did to get
> through it, but i wanted you to know you are not alone. I am a sophomore in
> college, and I am glad to say I am now steadily moving forward again. So
> please keep working and keep trying. If I ever figure it out, I will share
> it with you. And I would love to read what other people haev to say about
> this
> experience.
> Naomi
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jess crawford [mailto:akane12@-----.net]
> Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2001 1:01 AM
> To: klarinet@-----.org
> Subject: [kl] clarinetist's block
>
> Hi all--
> I'm experiencing an interesting phenomenon that I know is altogether normal
> but still frustrating: I have hit a plateau and I appear to be stuck. I am
> a college student, a junior, and my sophomore year was a huge year for me
> as a musician-- there was just so much growth! and now. .. well, I feel as
> though I practice more than ever and yet all I'm doing is learning the
> etudes and the music and all the technical stuff but I'm not GROWING, I'm
> just learning notes and it isn't doing me much good. Does anyone have any
> advice to give me about breaking out of this rut? Tonight I started working
> scales again, drilling myself on my staccato and trying to get a nice crisp
> articulation at a good tempo. It felt good, but what else can I do? I'm
> sure there are other exercises that can be done, other things that can
> *always* be improved upon.
> (on a good note, and thanks to some advice from this list: I can now
> flutter tongue! [there was much rejoicing!]. Vier Stucke, here I come!)
>
> thanks! :)
> -- jess
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2001 09:21:32 -0500
> To: <klarinet@-----.org>
> From: "Stan Geidel" <sgeidel@-----.net>
> Subject: Re: [kl] clarinetist's block
> Message-ID: <001e01c16472$d6f7d4e0$20dcd4d1=eqijx>
>
> Jess,
>
> I've seen the phenomenon you describe and recall experiencing it myself
> many times on and off over the years. Let me offer a few points for you
> consideration.
>
> First, you say you've started working on scales again, and in fact this is
> one part of the plan that I was going recommend to you - going back to the
> basics. However, I was concerned to note that you said <<Tonight I started
> working scales again.>> In fact, the fundamentals of playing the
> instrument should *always* be a part of your routine. Consult with your
> teacher and develop a warmup routine consisting of warming up the fingers,
> the tongue, the air stream, sustaining tones, matching tones, and
> articulating notes (a different process than warming up the tongue!). Keep
> this basic warmup as part of routine; don't abandon it, even if you feel
> good about your playing, or more importantly, even if you get busy and have
> a lot of music to learn. I still do a warmup routine every day, before I
> start practicing the music for upcoming performances. It will pay you
> great dividends over the years. Few things are as important as this.
>
> Next, I would suggest that you expand your idea of what you consider to be
> "educational" on the instrument. Most students attempt to educate
> themselves on the instrument by practicing it. However, this is only part
> of the process. If you have a wider educational focus, the other elements
> of a complete educational process will help to sustain you through those
> difficult and frustrating periods of instrumental growth.
>
> What are these "other elements" of the educational process? First, there
> is the process of listening to fine musicians, both on recordings and live
> in concert. Listening should be a regular part of your musical growth, not
> something that you do only occasionally and informally. Of course you want
> to listen to fine clarinetists, but don't limit yourself to listening to
> clarinestists only; listen to the great wind players on all the
> instruments. Listen to great string players. Listen to great singers.
> When I was young, my teacher encouraged me to study the singing of great
> singers like Dietrich Fischer-Dieskau. This is tremendously rewarding and
> inspiring (I
> know...sometimes it can be frustrating as well !).
>
> I'm also saying to get involved not only in listening to fine musicians on
> a regular basis, but to get involved in the *process* of listening. What
> is the *process* of listening? Listening as educational study should not
> be passive... it should be both an intellectual process and a subjective
> process. If subjectively you decide you like, for an example, the way
> Fischer-Dieskau sings a phrase, stop and ask yourself why it sounds so good
> to you. What exactly is he doing that makes the phrase so attractive to
> you? Answer the question as specifically as you can... what are the
> musical inflections that occur that really make the phrase work? Can you
> then begin to incorporate what you have observed into your own playing?
> This kind of study will help bring you past the daily frustrations of
> learning the instrument and thrust you directly into the musical realm.
>
> As I said before, do this kind of work with wind players you admire, great
> singers, great string players... you'll find that your own musical
> imagination will be inspired as you closely investigate the musicianship of
> others.
>
> Another process to get involved in is the idea of performing as frequently
> as possible. Many students perform very, very infrequently. Try to create
> as many performance opportunities for yourself as possible. Performances
> are essential because they force us to prepare, regardless of whether we
> feel inspired or not. Try to get involved in two or three solo or chamber
> music performances every semester if you are not already doing so. If
> these opportunities do not present themselves to you, *create* them for
> yourself. Get in the habit of performing for others in a way that puts you
> "on the spot" as much as possible. Don't hide in the practice room.
>
> Practice the basics; study the work of fine musicians; perform as much as
> possible. This creates a full world of musical study for yourself. You
> may continue to experience the natural ups and downs of emotional
> frustration, but a full, busy life of varied musical and instrumental study
> will keep you progressing.
>
> Stan Geidel
> ___________________
> Dr. Stanley Geidel
> Editor and Publisher
> THE ONLINE CLARINET RESOURCE
> www.ocr.sneezy.org
>

Well...I had not planned to read this digest completely, but got
intrigued by this particular answer! Should have known....A great answer by
a wonderful student of the clarinet! Believe me, it bears very serious,
consideration....way to go, Stan!!!

gholson

> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "jess crawford" <akane12@-----.net>
> To: <klarinet@-----.org>
> Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2001 1:00 AM
> Subject: [kl] clarinetist's block
>
> > Hi all--
> > I'm experiencing an interesting phenomenon that I know is altogether
>
> normal
>
> > but still frustrating: I have hit a plateau and I appear to be stuck. I
> > am
>
> a
>
> > college student, a junior, and my sophomore year was a huge year for me
> > as
>
> a
>
> > musician-- there was just so much growth! and now. .. well, I feel as
>
> though
>
> > I practice more than ever and yet all I'm doing is learning the etudes
> > and the music and all the technical stuff but I'm not GROWING, I'm just
>
> learning
>
> > notes and it isn't doing me much good. Does anyone have any advice to
> > give me about breaking out of this rut? Tonight I started working scales
> > again, drilling myself on my staccato and trying to get a nice crisp
> > articulation at a good tempo. It felt good, but what else can I do? I'm
> > sure there are other exercises that can be done, other things that can
> > *always* be
>
> improved
>
> > upon.
> > (on a good note, and thanks to some advice from this list: I can now
>
> flutter
>
> > tongue! [there was much rejoicing!]. Vier Stucke, here I come!)
> >
> > thanks! :)
> > -- jess
> >
> >
> >
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sat, 03 Nov 2001 09:45:12 -0600
> To: klarinet@-----.org
> From: Jay Niepoetter <Niep@-----.com>
> Subject: Re: [kl] clarinetist's block
> Message-ID: <3BE41108.E54@-----.com>
>
> i have no idea where you are, but i would always get into a city and
> take a lesson or two from someone that was hero of mine. it is $ these
> days to do this, but sometimes just one word from someone who has a job,
> or someone who's playing you respect (other than your current teacher)
> is all it takes to get the inspiration bug again.
>
> jay
>
> jess crawford wrote:
> > Hi all--
> > I'm experiencing an interesting phenomenon that I know is altogether
> > normal but still frustrating: I have hit a plateau and I appear to be
> > stuck. I am a college student, a junior, and my sophomore year was a huge
> > year for me as a musician-- there was just so much growth! and now. ..
> > well, I feel as though I practice more than ever and yet all I'm doing is
> > learning the etudes and the music and all the technical stuff but I'm not
> > GROWING, I'm just learning notes and it isn't doing me much good. Does
> > anyone have any advice to give me about breaking out of this rut? Tonight
> > I started working scales again, drilling myself on my staccato and trying
> > to get a nice crisp articulation at a good tempo. It felt good, but what
> > else can I do? I'm sure there are other exercises that can be done, other
> > things that can *always* be improved upon.
> > (on a good note, and thanks to some advice from this list: I can now
> > flutter tongue! [there was much rejoicing!]. Vier Stucke, here I come!)
> >
> > thanks! :)
> > -- jess
> >
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2001 10:03:32 EST
> To: klarinet@-----.org
> From: ClarinetStudioUK@-----.com
> Subject: Re: [kl] clarinetist's block
> Message-ID: <64.15a1cd02.29156144@-----.com>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2001 08:25:37 -0700 (MST)
> To: klarinet@-----.org
> From: AnneLenoir@-----.net (Anne Lenoir)
> Subject: Re: [kl] clarinetist's block
> Message-ID: <19758-3BE40C71-1148@-----.net>
>
> Dear clarinetists with clarinetists block,
> I think that it is important to get out and play as many
> performances as possible. Every now and then I call up the Hospise
> Center here in town and volunteer to play a short performance. It
> nothing else, it forces me to prepare for the concert. Once I get there,
> it is a great joy to perform for the residents. I also do the same thing
> for several nursing homes in town. Every once in a while I will follow
> up on a lead to perform for a benefit. Yesterday, my student, Jerome
> came to his lesson, all excited about being a DJ, "master of
> ceremonices" for an upcoming benefit, where there was to have been no
> music. I asked for his permission to call the hostess and volunteered to
> bring some live music. The hostess knew me and welcomed me and a couple
> of musicians to come, and although there is no money involved, there
> will be a delicious meal and wine. Sometimes these volunteer gigs can
> turn into paying gigs. I do think that it is important to keep up on
> your practice routine including scales and technical studies, but it
> does your "clarinet spirit" good to have a special gig to prepare for.
> These days I am working on Brazillian tunes. ANNIE
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2001 09:53:32 -0600
> To: <klarinet@-----.org>
> From: "Mindy Pyle" <mmariep2@-----.com>
> Subject: Re: [kl] clarinetist's block
> Message-ID: <005201c1647f$b1b8ff80$0900000a=mmp>
>
> I completely understand your situation, as I'm sure most musicians do,
> whether clarinet players or not. I am a first-year master's student and I
> have just recently hit a plateau as well. Yes, it is absolutely
> frustrating and a major pain in the butt. It has been my experience that
> the best thing to do is push through, though it helps to find something you
> like about clarinet playing every day and focus on it for a while in the
> practice room. If you focus your attention on fundamentals and base your
> musical experience on your success or failure of those things, you might
> drive yourself crazy. Ask yourself what it is about stuying music and
> playing the clarinet that drives you to the practice room every day. Is it
> the idea of being able to hit that high note a little better than yesterday
> or maybe getting that F# major scale a few beats faster?
>
> The most important advice that I ever heard from anyone is to just play and
> have fun and the rest will fall into place. Instead of asking yourself
> what am I doing wrong or why am I not getting any better......ask yourself
> WHAT AM I DOING RIGHT????????
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "jess crawford" <akane12@-----.net>
> To: <klarinet@-----.org>
> Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2001 12:00 AM
> Subject: [kl] clarinetist's block
>
> > Hi all--
> > I'm experiencing an interesting phenomenon that I know is altogether
>
> normal
>
> > but still frustrating: I have hit a plateau and I appear to be stuck.....
>
> Do You Yahoo!?
> Get your free @-----.com
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sat, 03 Nov 2001 08:08:35 EST
> To: <klarinet@-----.org>
> From: StillLoveNewYork@-----.com
> Subject: Re: [kl] Re: remove from group response
> Message-ID: <f6.11ab9270.29154653@-----.com>
>
> In a message dated Sat, 3 Nov 2001 12:53:43 AM Eastern Standard Time,
EFGold2@-----.com writes:
> > Please remove this address: efgold2@-----.
> > Thank you.
>
> If you look at the end of each post (including this one!), you'll find
> instructions for unsubscribing yourself from the list.
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sat, 03 Nov 2001 08:56:32 -0500
> To: klarinet@-----.org
> From: Bill Hausmann <bhausmann1@-----.com>
> Subject: Re: [kl] Decision '76
> Message-Id: <5.0.2.1.0.20011103085327.02584dc8=mail>
>
> At 11:23 PM 11/2/2001 -0600, you wrote:
> >Thanks for letting me know this. Is there any link/URL that I can go to
> > so that I can order them?
>
> You could try J. W. Pepper. They have a large selection of band
> arrangements. http://www.jwpepper.com
>
> Bill Hausmann bhausmann1@-----.com
> 451 Old Orchard Drive
> Essexville, MI 48732 ICQ UIN 4862265
>
> If you have to mic a saxophone, the rest of the band is TOO LOUD!
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2001 09:22:23 -0600
> To: "'klarinet@-----.org>
> From: "Heinemann, Stephen" <sjh@-----.edu>
> Subject: Shostakovich 10
> Message-ID: <96CA960D101ED511B8CC0060971BD439631659@-----.edu>
>
> A few weeks ago, there was mention of the Peoria Symphony Orchestra's
> performance of Shostakovich's Tenth Symphony. That performance will be
> broadcast this Wednesday, Nov. 7, at 7pm CST on our public radio station,
> streamed at http://www.bradley.edu/wcbu/ .
>
> As a member of the station's advisory board, I should also point out that
> it's possible to become a member of the station through another link at the
> site.
>
> Steve Heinemann
> Bradley University
>
> **************************** Dr. Stephen HeinemannAssociate Professor of
> Music Theory/Composition/Clarinet Bradley University Peoria, IL
> 61625 (309)677-2603 sjh@-----.edu****************************
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2001 10:49:41 EST
> To: klarinet@-----.org
> From: DGross1226@-----.com
> Subject: Re: Luby D Jackson
> Message-ID: <9.1dd94abf.29156c15@-----.com>
>
> In a message dated 01-11-03 04:15:33 EST, you write:
>
> << klarinet Digest 3 Nov 2001 09:15:01 -0000 Issue 3431
> Topics (messages 48547 through 48572):
> Leaving the reed on.
> 48547 by: lubydjackson@-----. Jackson)
> 48548 by: lubydjackson@-----. Jackson)
> 48554 by: lubydjackson@-----. Jackson)
> 48557 by: lubydjackson@-----. Jackson)
> 48561 by: Audrey Travis <vsofan@-----.com>
> 48563 by: lubydjackson@-----. Jackson)
> 48564 by: Larry Paikin <larrypaikin@-----.net>
> 48567 by: Bill Hausmann <bhausmann1@-----.com>
> 48568 by: lubydjackson@-----. Jackson)
>
> French cut reeds?
> 48549 by: lubydjackson@-----. Jackson)
>
> Decision '76
> 48550 by: lubydjackson@-----. Jackson)
> 48566 by: Bill Hausmann <bhausmann1@-----.com>
> 48569 by: lubydjackson@-----. Jackson)
>
> Dutch Rush
> 48551 by: lubydjackson@-----. Jackson)
>
> How to make your reeds work
> 48552 by: lubydjackson@-----. Jackson)
> 48555 by: lubydjackson@-----. Jackson)
> 48560 by: HatNYC62@-----.com
>
> Paul Dupre Eb
> 48553 by: lubydjackson@-----. Jackson)
>
> Augustin Duques
> 48556 by: Dan Leeson <leeson0@-----.net>
>
> voicing/was "Band vs orch eefer range"
> 48558 by: lubydjackson@-----. Jackson)
>
> eefer madness/Myers Briggs
> 48559 by: lubydjackson@-----. Jackson)
>
> voicing/was "Band vs orch eefer range
> 48562 by: EClarinet@-----.com
> 48565 by: lubydjackson@-----. Jackson)
>
> remove from group response
> 48570 by: EFGold2@-----.com
>
> clarinetist's block
> 48571 by: "jess crawford" <akane12@-----.net>
> 48572 by: "Burch or Susan Johnson" <bsjohnsn@-----.net>>
>
> DEAR LUBY,
>
> ENOUGH IS ENOUGH! AND, YES, I KNOW I'M SHOUTING.
>
> DON GROSS
> LA CANADA, CALIFORNIA
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2001 13:52:40 -0500
> To: "Klarinet Mailing list" <klarinet@-----.org>
> From: "Patricia Smith" <pattiesmith@-----.net>
> Subject: Masters programs in Music Therapy
> Message-ID: <013601c16498$b972ce40$1d50193f=pavilion>
>
> This might be an odd subject to bring up on this list, but I have been
> taking a long break from playing to concentrate on other areas of my life,
> most importantly parenting my little ones.
>
> However, I am at a point where I truly need to get certified to do
> something to make an income (I am a single parent and money, as we know
> doesn't grow on trees). I no longer have the desire or the ability to
> teach in the public schools at all, yet I enjoy working with people and
> would like to do something using music. I realize I will need my playing
> and I can get either loans or a Voc Rehab program to pay for it. I simply
> need some resources and some suggestions.
>
> Anyone know anything about the programs available at Radford University in
> Virginia? Any other programs available in Virginia?
>
> Patricia A. Smith
> pattiesmith@-----.net
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2001 13:03:40 -0700 (MST)
> To: klarinet@-----.org
> From: AnneLenoir@-----.net (Anne Lenoir)
> Subject: Re: [kl] Masters programs in Music Therapy
> Message-ID: <5557-3BE44D9C-4652@-----.net>
>
> Patty, that is not an odd remark to bring up at all, about how to
> "market" your "clarinetistry" to the world. Do you enjoy teaching
> private clarinet lessons? Are you limited to living in the Virginia
> area? There is a wonderful clarinetist on our list in your area, I can
> barely remember his name. He gave a great recital in Norman. James
> Niethamer or something like that. I have a few other ideas involving
> playing gigs, but I don't want to bore the list to death. Actually, I
> have been told by many people, that the gigs I play are very therapeutic
> to others. (They are definitely therapeutic to me). I have often thought
> about Music Therapy as a professional field, but I'm too lazy to do the
> paperwork. I just like to show up and "perform". ANNIE
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sat, 03 Nov 2001 15:22:54 -0500
> To: klarinet@-----.org
> From: David Renaud <manonrivet@-----.ca>
> Subject: Mouthpiece life
> Message-ID: <3BE4521D.90284446@-----.ca>
>
> Questions:
>
> 1) What is the anticipated life span use of a mouthpiece before refacing is
> required.
> (Assume 150-180, 3-4hrs gigs per year plus practice.)
>
> 2) Will frequent outdoor gigs effect this drastically.
>
> 3) Will repeated exposure to transport in Canadian winter conditions
> , cooling dramatically, and warming repeatedly effect its life span .
>
> Thanks in advance
> Dave Renaud
>
> ------------------------------
>
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