Klarinet Archive - Posting 000974.txt from 2001/10

From: lubydjackson@-----. Jackson)
Subj: Re: [kl] Re: Band vs orch eefer range
Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2001 16:44:24 -0500

Yes, and I just love your tact with it all. You've made a clarinet pal for
life. LOL!

Can you send those links to the archives about the trends?

I will practice voicing on my eefer this afternoon to experience what you're
talking about.

I wasn't contradicting myself. I meant that when I listen to professional
recordings of the piece, the eefer part is tastefully done. I also meant
that when I play eefer I'm not wanting to STAND OUT above the ensemble, just
play a part that no one plays. You have to realize that eefer was with held
from me for over 14 years of my clarinet career because conductors wanted to
exploit me for their purposes. They stuck me on 1st/solo Bb clarinet or
tough bass parts to benefit their own acclaim and not allowing me to really
shine on the eefer, which I was ordained to play.

As for Pineapple Poll, I don't think I have the solo Bb clarinet part. I
have the 1st part because I switch between 1st and eeffer many times. I
think I'll just go back to bass.
----- Original Message -----
From: <EClarinet@-----.com>
Subject: [kl] Re: Band vs orch eefer range

> Hi Luby!
>
> I am going to answer several of your questions, but I'm going to do it in
> just ONE post---that way we won't drive everyone else on this list crazy
> reading posts that only have one sentence. You probably sent 8 posts
because
> you kept thinking of things you wanted to ask after you had already sent a
> post. Here's what I do to keep the number of posts down: open a reply
> email, respond to one post, and then move that window out of the way;
then I
> read the other posts on Klarinetlist, and if I want to comment on them, I
> just bring my reply window back and add to it. I do this until I have
read
> everybody's posts. Then I know I can hit 'send' and take care of all of
my
> thoughts in one post.
>
> So, now to responses to your questions:
>
> <<What does one mean about "voicing" those notes on eefer?>>
>
> Voicing is controlling the shape and speed of your air column by where you
> position the back and possibly middle of your tongue. You have to use
> voicing to get the very highest registers of the clarinet. The syllable
> preferred by most people on clarinet to get the best sound and response is
> 'eeee'.
>
> <<<However, with all of that in mind I'm noticing a trend in public
schools
> now
> where the eefer is being removed. This trend is also happening in
academia
> where the eefer is no longer a viable part of the ensemble.
> Can anyone enlighten me on these trends?>>>
>
> We already talked about this subject earlier this month---look in the
> archives.
>
> <<<There are some really nice eefer parts in the Pineapple Poll. I love
to
> play eefer on this piece because it doesn't stick out. Who else has
played
> this piece and would like to share about the eefer part?>>>
>
> I think the eefer part does stick out, in the second movement, where it
has
> the melody and is VERY exposed. I really think the solo clarinet part to
> Pineapple Poll is difficult, and there is an interesting byplay in the 3rd
> mvt between solo and eefer.
>
> I'm not sure what you mean saying you like this because it DOESN"T stick
out,
> because earlier you said you were playing eefer so you could hear
yourself.
> That seems a bit contradictory.
>
> <<<So can you play super C on your eefer with ease?>>>
>
> NO WAY? Where did you get that idea? I said that when you play a double
C
> on the Bb clarinet, the voicing used there is very small. I've never
played
> higher than A on eefer. I can play double C on my Bb fairly easily,
though.
>
> <<<It's interesting that we should talk about this because my lowest E on
> eefer
> is way sharp. I've noticed that I also get a grimy sound when playing the
> low G as well.
>
> Does this happen to everyone else's eefer?>>>
>
> Not sure what you mean by 'grimy', but there are LOTS of out of tune
places
> on the Eb compared with the Bb. That is one of the reasons it takes a
great
> musician to play the instrument really well.
>
> <<<Because you are so good on eefer, do you also teach your students on
> eefer?>>
>
> Hold on there! I never said I was 'good'--I am still trying to be what I
> call 'decent'!! :-) When you have heard people like Pete Hadcock, John
Bruce
> Yeh, and that guy in the Marine Band play eefer, then you know what 'good'
> sounds like! But to answer your question, I have one student right now
who
> is playing Eb in his wind ensemble, so when we work on his parts, I teach
> with my eefer. I also had a student a couple of years ago who liked the
Eb
> better than Bb, so I would let her do solos for festival on eefer, and of
> course I would use my Eb in her lessons. I also have students who play
bass,
> and I use my bass when working on their bass music. I do 99% of my
teaching
> on Bb. The Bb is the primary member of the clarinet family, and no matter
> which one you play the most on, you have to have the most solid grounding
on
> Bb.
>
> Hope this helps answer your questions, and gives you a good demonstration
of
> how to answer many posts all in one big post! :-)
>
> Elise Curran
> Orlando, FL
>
>
>
>
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