Klarinet Archive - Posting 000934.txt from 2001/10

From: Tony@-----.uk (Tony Pay)
Subj: RE: [kl] Yes We Have No Bananas vs. Beethoven 9
Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 17:27:26 -0500

On Tue, 30 Oct 2001 16:16:32 -0600, LacyS@-----.org said:

> No, Tony, I really wasn't saying that one was better than the other,
> nor am I saying that the 9th is not a great work (of course it's a
> great work, don't you think?). I was saying that Dan made a valid
> point. And no, I can't stand musical snobs, because there are so many
> different kinds of music out there that are great in their own ways.
> I love Beethoven's 9th, but I also love "Across the Universe" and I
> don't really think of one being "better" than the other. I just
> thought it was really pompous of the guy to say that one single piece
> of music (and, essentially, one genre-classical) is greater than any
> other composition (or genre) to date. That's really just an opinion
> of one individual. Am I clear? Did I say that I disagreed with
> anything??? I don't think I did. Don't put words in my mouth.

I really wasn't intending to put words in your mouth.

I was just asking a question, and I don't know whether you think you
answered it, above. The question was:

> > So, apart from the fact that you can't stand a musical snob, and that
> > you disagree with his assessment of Beethoven IX as the single best
> > composition ever written; d'ya really think that "Yes, we have no
> > bananas" is superior or equal to Beethoven IX?

I just think that that's an interesting question. Why I asked it is
that it's a question that occurs to me, in various forms, quite often,
and what it speaks to is the background against which we ask such
things.

I love "Across the Universe" too, and even, "Every breath you take".

But, what *do* we want to say about Beethoven 9 and those pieces? That
they're all equally 'good'? How about the relationship between "She
loves me" and "A day in the Life"? Or between Bruckner 7 and Bruckner
9?

> > Or is there some other way to think about it?

That's what I wanted to get at.

Tony
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