Klarinet Archive - Posting 000702.txt from 2001/10

From: "Robert Moody" <LetsReason@-----.com>
Subj: Re: [kl] When to teach voicing for altissimo notes
Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2001 22:05:29 -0400

> No offense Robert, but the conversation seemed to take an abrupt turn for
> the worse. All I asked was that you provide information about how you
> teach. That you have taken this approach leads me to believe that perhaps
> your success in teaching is not what you have said it is.

LOL. I'm starting to feel like Tony! I remember when I first returned to
reading this list again I came in the middle of Tony and Roger bickering
back and forth. I got the first impression that Tony was an a$$ and I
believe that someone even said so of him. I also got the impression that
Roger was full of knowledge but lacking in "practical" communication skills
and a little common sense....though generally a "good guy".

I'm glad I continued to communicate with both of them. Now I understand
Tony's frustration at the point I entered and my view of him has changed
dramatically! LOL!

Interesting.

[Btw, I love that polemic of prefacing a remark with "No offense" and then
promptly insulting the person you are talking to. Very nice, Roger. Kinda
like, "No offense, Robert. But I sense that you are a liar because you were
mean to me. LOL.]

I think you hit the bullseye Roger. Probably better to leave this topic
alone between you an I.

> Of course, I could be wrong. It is just the feeling your last post left
me
> with.

I'm sorry it left you...with that feeling, of course. ;-)

> I'm bowing out of what was, but is no longer, an interesting discussion -
> for the obvious reasons and conclusions!

I, on the other hand, just think the interest was changing flavors. :-)

The reason I offered that sarcastic humor was to distract from the
insinuation implied from ignoring my response to the question Roger had
already asked and I had already answered.

For example, from the immediately previous two posts:

Roger asks me, "BTW, what literature do you have the students play with
those altissimo fingerings you have them learn? [...] What repertoire does
the band play which allows for time spent teaching to clarinet altissimo?"

To which I quote and respond with this quote Roger uses to quote me, "In any
case, I am teaching the clarinets the altissimo by wrote, not off the page."
and "So we do not play music that has them practicing the altissimo. Rather
the kids have their own exercises and challenges given to them by
demonstration and explanation."

Then he, immediately following this sentence, asks, "But what literature do
you have them play Robert? Do you have them play repertoire?"

The REASON I consider this insinuating something about me is that I do NOT
consider Roger dense. Someone would have to be rather dense to ask me
almost literally the same question that I just answered by my quoting the
question they originally asked. Can anyone not see that I do NOT have them
play repertoire or music off the page from that answer? I sincerely do not
consider Roger to be dense and so he must be insinuating that I am
fabricating the success and use of this approach in my public school
teaching. [In fact, my sarcasm apparently provided the avenue for Roger to
express just that...that I am lying, IMHO.]

But I agree with Roger. This needs to go ahead and end now. Please do not
feel like you cannot communicate with me about this topic though. I am
excited about my success with this issue facing clarinetists. I don't mean
to be abrasive about it. My issue with Roger stems from my observing (and
distaste) for how he has dealt with others in the past.

Robert

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