Klarinet Archive - Posting 000518.txt from 2001/10

From: "Lacy Schroeder" <LacyS@-----.org>
Subj: RE: [kl] "successful faking"
Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 23:43:51 -0400

You're right! You did come in on the middle of the conversation! :) Tony
was talking about the F#-G# trill on a Boehm clarinet, and it brought up
the concept of faking. Of course, I always work out the parts and play
them as accurately as I can. It's just if there is a particular passage
that even professionals have great dificulty whiffing out, faking is a
good way to go, especially if the passage is just for effect and won't
be heard anyway. And of course, I use fake fingerings all the time!
Sometimes they play better in tune and are easier to sustain than the
real ones!

Lacy

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stan Geidel [mailto:sgeidel@-----.net]
> Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2001 10:04 AM
> To: klarinet@-----.org
> Subject: [kl] "successful faking"
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> Perhaps I missed the beginning of this thread, so forgive me=20
> if I appear
> uninformed about what has previously transpired.
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> Lacy states:
> > Well, Tony, I had a coaching session last weekend with a clarinetist
> > from the St. Louis Symphony (who is brilliant, by the way!), and she
> > emphasized the usefulness of successful "faking." It's like=20
> the fine art
> > of b.s.sing in an English paper.
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> I find this concept of "successful faking" rather=20
> disturbing. First, if
> you are "faking," then clearly you are not "successful" in=20
> playing the part.
> Second, and more importantly, it seems to me that if you set=20
> out to "fake
> it" convincingly, you would need to prepare. Why not put=20
> that preparation
> time into learning the actual part?
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> Lacy, am I missing something here? Perhaps you are talking about very
> specific items, such as playing an occasional harmonic in the=20
> midst of an
> extremely fast passage (e.g., overblowing "open G" to produce=20
> high D), or a
> trill fingering that is out of tune but acceptable under certain
> circumstances? Again, please forgive me if I've missed the=20
> beginning of
> this discussion, but surely you are not talking about=20
> anything more than
> those examples I've given...
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> Stan Geidel
> ___________________
> Dr. Stanley Geidel
> Editor and Publisher
> THE ONLINE CLARINET RESOURCE
> www.ocr.sneezy.org
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