Klarinet Archive - Posting 000333.txt from 2001/10
From: Georg.Kuehner@-----.de (Georg Kuehner) Subj: Re: [kl] Re: Eb Reeds for Eb mouthpieces Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 22:13:23 -0400
Maybe it could be very interesting for you to take Reeds for Bb clarinet GERMAN
cut. They are just a little bit bigger.
Please respond if workes for You
Best Georg Kühner
Robert Moody schrieb:
> I had said, "Despite 'opinions' to the contrary, your facing only gives a
> general idea of what strength reeds may work best for you." to which
> someone replied, "Robert I cannot agree with your "opinion" stated above.
> Since the Eb clarinet mouthpiece and reed are smaller than their Bb
> equivalents, the facing and tip opening makes even more impact than usual in
> trying to find compatibility with reeds." to which someone else agreed with,
> saying, "All else being equal, the facing of the mouthpiece will have the
> major influence on the strength of reed necessary to produce acceptable
> pitch, tone, and attack on the eb clarinet." to which I now respond...
>
> Wow. I kinda feel like Tony has claimed all along. Very interesting.
>
> Here is what is interesting--I agree! with both of these opinions (though I
> am by no means an "eefer" expert). But I think, unfortunately, that someone
> is implying something definitely not said about my comment. In fact, my
> comment lends itself to exactly the points they are making here. If I tell
> someone my facing on my mouthpiece, the BEST! that they are going to respond
> back to me is an estimation of what strength reed I could/would/should use.
> The "law of physics" face-o-the-matter is, we are all different and would
> therefore play different strengths on the same facing. [This does not negate
> the probability that "most" would play in the same general area of
> strength.]
>
> The original post I responded to said that they played on a 3.5 strength
> Vandoren and felt that it was too hard. Another response to this post came
> across as a little condescending and so I made the comment. I could have
> simply said to the original question: Well if the 3.5 is too strong, just
> try a 3.0 or a 2.5. That is a logical response and probably quicker at
> getting results if tried than starting a conversation about "Oh you have
> THIS name brand EEFER mouthpiece with this FACING and since everyone knows
> that MORGAN'S mouthpieces also have this CHARACTERISTIC you should use a
> VANDOREN "GIGLIOTTI" ALTO TRUMPET REED trimmed down to play backwards on the
> bell of the saxophone your great-great-great-grandfather played in the
> 1700s.
>
> Though I'm sure this may have been the more accurate answer IF the original
> poster had given their namebrand and specs, if they're asking about what
> strength reed to use because the one their using is a little to stiff, they
> probably (just a guess) don't know the facing on their mouthpiece. Then
> we'd need a whole new thread for this list...but alas...we HAVE started a
> new thread! LMBO!
>
> Still...my opinion is as I stated from the beginning, with all due respect
> for eefer players and everyone else more knowledgeable than me: "Your facing
> ONLY gives a GENERAL idea of what reed strengths will work best for you."
>
> Ton...er...Robert.
>
> P.S. In fact, sometimes humidity makes that guess more off that it might be.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <GrabnerWG@-----.com>
> To: <klarinet@-----.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2001 9:35 PM
> Subject: Re: [kl] Re: Eb Reeds for Eb mouthpieces
>
>
> > Elise said:
> >
> > << Robert said, in response to a question from Josh about Eb clarinet
> reeds:
> >
> > << <<Despite "opinions" to the contrary, your facing only gives a general
> idea of what strength reeds may work best for you. >> >>
> >
> > <<Robert I cannot agree with your "opinion" stated above. Since the Eb
> clarinet mouthpiece and reed are smaller than their Bb equivalents, the
> facing and tip opening makes even more impact than usual in trying to find
> compatibility with reeds.>>
> >
> > Elise - you're right - people may have opinions, but there are facts -
> laws as it were - that govern the physical world.
> >
> > To quote a NEW law of Physics, "All else being equal, the facing of the
> mouthpiece will have the major influence on the strength of reed necessary
> to produce acceptable pitch, tone, and attack on the eb clarinet."
> >
> > There Sir Issac Newton,,,,ya MISSED that one!!!!!!
> >
> > Walter (only slightly tongue-in cheek) Grabner
> > (who has played the eefer professionally, AND lived!)
> >
> >
> >
> >
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