Klarinet Archive - Posting 000323.txt from 2001/10

From: "Tony Wakefield" <tony-wakefield@-----.net>
Subj: [kl] Tony Pay leaving again?
Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 07:28:00 -0400

I s`pose it is inevitable that Tony Pay would come to leave - again. I`m not
quite sure whether the last time was his own choice or at the request of
(possibly) Mark. I don`t know whether this is the case now. Not that I`m
interested in finding out. I`m not! It`s just my observation that he <has>
decided to go - <twice>.

I`m deciding now that the 'third person' will not quite serve my purpose
from here on in, so I`ll now direct the remainder of my mail to you
personally Tony, as it is only proper to do so.

Do you really enjoy being party to such arguments as what we all have
witnessed recently, and to bring to such 'debauched debate' such an intense
degree of crescendo, that it becomes a crescendo which really never reaches
an apex? Because of each other`s (yours and Rogers) replies becoming, not
interactively interesting enough, which in turn would, (should) increase
depth of logic and intellectual reasoning, to eventually alighten <all> our
educational store in here, your replies to each other have caused a lot of
upset to the rest of the list. I`ll have a little £1 each way bet that it
has probably caused some anguish, frustration and anger in your own homes
too. It could possibly be that you indeed 'met your match' in Roger Garratt.
He has been your catalyst <and> your brick wall. He has also never-the-less
been exceptionally clever in his replies, which to some degree have been in
essence similar to how a woman would reason: to appease using an alternative
agenda, so as to 'put off' the ensuing tract. No offence to women, but some
do. No offence to Roger also. But it rocked you.

Stand back Tony, and have a re-think about the way we all have to talk to
each other. I know this last remark is probably not too clever as we are
both pushing a few years behind us, but your extreme use of language has, I
think even you have to admit, been unacceptable. It`s possible that you
<and> I should have done this a long time ago, in our youth. Yes, I was
myself quite volatile when expressing my points of view, and I let all and
sundry know this, even if it meant loss of business. My logic/my 'stamp' was
indeed more important than my income - even more important than finding and
making friends. It became important to me to try to force my imprint upon
others. As a result my profession has indeed suffered. My social life has
suffered. I could go on but, others are now getting quite bored, including
possibly yourself.

I don`t think, if you do decide to go, that it would be a good idea to come
back 'yet again'. Try to find another outlet for your kind of committed
argument which strays, perhaps neccessarily so - sometimes, into personality
clashes to importantly(?) preserve, emphasise and develop your main original
points. I say this because I think that klarinet is not the vehicle wherein
your search for such depth of commitment as what you need may be found. We
can all see that you have commitment. Maybe much more so than 99% of other
members.

The 'most' important aquisite <every> human being needs is of course,
(immediately after self-preservation), is tolerance and understanding,
ranging from comparitively insignificant chat about clarinets, to war
ministers` 'chat' about saving the world.

Thank you for listening Tony - if you did :<)

I wish you bon voyage. Nice to have spoken to you, and argued with you,
maybe stupidly. You maybe interested to hear that I finally got round to
hearing the Schornberg Chamber Symphony, and didn`t find in convincing, due
to the different periods in his life he spent writing it, which to me
affected it`s stability and balance.

See ya,

Tony.

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