Klarinet Archive - Posting 000755.txt from 2001/09

From: "Tony Wakefield" <tony-wakefield@-----.net>
Subj: Re: [kl] Re: :-)[kl] Not a Bernstein Sonata Rant :-)
Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2001 07:55:35 -0400

Virginia,

Thank you for smiling this time when writing. It has helped to understand
the manner with which you contribute.

I apologise for the "What a swipe" remark. It was a bit of crass
belligerence aimed from one side of the pond to the other, yet with a :<)
too.

I do believe it was Ann Satterfield who used the term 'scam', even tho` I
had pre-stated that I believe that music writers have 'duped' their
audiences. This is different. Some writers have somethings already written,
then change the title and the dedication. I can give an immediately example,
(and is this an example of dishonesty?) The fact that it is an example of
what happened in the British Music Film Industry does not excuse the
perverse act that when the World War 2 British film 'The Dam Busters' used
a concert march written by Eric Coates, and that music went on to become a
symbol of great British victory, the fact is, is that this music had <all
ready> been written, and was stashed away on a shelf gathering dust.

That is not quite the same thing as someone putting someone else`s name to a
work, although I have no doubt that this has been tried several times.
Please, - everyone, do not confuse the two.

We also have examples, many times over, of composers using the same music,
(their own) in many different titles.

So the comparisons with the world of painting are not all that far removed.

My reading into your study of the Bernstein however, told me - mistakenly,
that you had decided to study it knowing (thinking) it to be immature, but
never-the-less you went ahead all the same.

Finally, are you, at your 'Experimental Music Catalogue" affiliated in any
way to 'The Society for the Promotion of New Music'? Do you come into
contact with this society? And as you wish me "collegial fellowship", does
that infer that you are in the music dept at the Uni of Leicester? Nosey
aren`t I?

Best,

Tony W. :<)

From: "Virginia Anderson"
23 September 2001 09:13
Re: :-)[kl] Not a Bernstein Sonata Rant :-)

> on 22/9/01 9:15 pm, "Tony Wakefield" <tony-wakefield@-----.net> wrote:
>
> > Wow - what a swipe!
>
> Not at all, merely light-hearted banter pointing out a flaw in Mr
Hattner's
> argument.
>
> I've yet to write that any composer is perpetuating a scam, that they
didn't
> write music, that a piece is not music, that any performer is wasting
their
> time by studying a piece, nor that the entire clarinet repertoire of
someone
> else's country is second-rate compared to the repertoire of one's own.
>
> Comparatively, my earlier description of the Bernstein as "derivative",
even
> "fatuous" (although I withdrew the latter), is a love-tap. Perhaps I
should
> surround my well-intentioned-albeit-humorous messages with smileys.
>
> :-) With my bestest ever wishes for collegial fellowship :-),
>
> :-)Cheers,:-)
>
> Virginia
> --
> Virginia Anderson
>

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