Klarinet Archive - Posting 000495.txt from 2001/07

From: Frank Garcia <fgarcia@-----.edu>
Subj: Re: [kl] Another musician honoured!
Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 17:12:44 -0400

Hooray for Roger! You said it much better (and logically) than I could have
in my agitated state!
Frank

--On Tue, Jul 17, 2001 2:37 PM -0500 rgarrett@-----.edu wrote:

> At 07:30 PM 07/17/2001 +0100, you wrote:
>> Who mentioned <censorship>? Certainly not me!
>
> Here is what you wrote:
>
>> The pop industry is not at present policed in any way, but we allow that
>> industry to serve up all it can to our young children. It is only
>> <after> our kids, and ourselves have heard all the muck that we then
>> decide to kick up a fuss. The film industry <is> policed. The
>> censorship board looks at every single film before it is released.
>
> When I read your paragraph, I conclude that you compare censorship of
> "every single film" to the lack thereof in the pop industry, which you
> claim is not "policed in any way....." You tie that into allowing such
> to sell whatever they want to our children.
>
> I still read that you wrote with an inference that the pop industry
> should follow the lead of the film industry.
>
>> Who suggested that I am a supporter of censorship?
>
> It reads that way. You wrote it. More than one person has read it that
> way.
>
>> What is the difference between the so called "Arts" and "Industry". None
>> as far as I am concerned when we have unacceptable standards from both
>> sources.
>
> It really is a question of degree isn't it................
>
> I don't agree with you - there are differences. Cigarettes are not legal
> until the age of 18 - CDs are.
>
>> The time is very fast approaching when we, and the music companies need
>> much stronger guidance, possibly from an outside independent or
>> government agency, as this time, as opposed to the days when some of
>> you say that some music was unacceptable years ago, (I have to disagree
>> with those statements), children are being drawn into this slow decline
>> of moral standards.
>
> You know Tony, you write that you do not support censorship, then you
> turn around and scream for government to guide the music industries
> (although you don't really say how......no guidelines here). From my
> standpoint, I don't see how you can have your cake and eat it too.
>
> Personally, I abhor the idea of government getting involved in something
> so personal and cherished as choice. That is what you appear to support
> by way of your suggestion.
>
>> Some say that parents do the policing. Some do, I agree, but I`ll wager
>> that the majority do <not> listen to their children`s pop purchases
>> first of all, before they allow them to take it up to their room.
>
> Well gee whiz - I certainly check the CD purchases. I ask other parents,
> young adults, and even do searches on the internet for reviews - just as
> I do before allowing my kids to see a PG or PG-13 movie.
>
>> I have not come across one argument that holds water in this debate.
>
> It looks like you just choose not to recognize those that do. Of course,
> I could be wrong. From what you have written, I surmise that you
> simply do not accept the idea that parents can, and do, supervise their
> children and their purchases. Frankly, I'm not responsible for what
> everyone else does - just what I do and what I allow my children to do.
> As they grow up, they learn what we approve of or disapprove of and,
> eventually, we hope when they become old enough that they can make
> responsible decisions for themselves.
>
> It wasn't so long ago that the US wouldn't allow certain Beatles tunes to
> be played, purchased, or broadcast. Why? Because they mentioned
> "getting high with a little help from my friends....." etc. What was
> the Charlie Brown Song.....? ".....Shooting spit wads in the
> hall......" Also caused some real problems. Today, such interference by
> government bodies seems silly and overkill. But, that's what you appear
> to suggest.
>
>> The facts are there to be seen in the deluge of POP PORN.
>
> I don't understand this sentence.
>
> Best wishes,
> Roger Garrett
>
> Roger Garrett
> Clarinet Professor
> Director, Symphonic Winds
> Illinois Wesleyan University
> School of Music
> Bloomington, IL 61702-2900
> Phone: (309) 556-3268
> Fax: (309) 556-3121
>
> "A man never discloses his own character so clearly as when he describes
> another's."
> Jean Paul Richter (1763-1825)
>
>
>
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Frank Garcia
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