Klarinet Archive - Posting 000362.txt from 2001/06

From: David Glenn <notestaff@-----.de>
Subj: [kl] Professor Wheeler's fluttertongue
Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 06:34:39 -0400

Tony Pay wrote:

> On Sun, 10 Jun 2001 21:09:35 +0200, notestaff@-----.de said:
>
> > Tony Pay wrote:
> >
> > > Is there anyone here who finds no problem with playing fluttertongue in
> > > the high register?
>
> > Tony,
> >
> > Which kind of flutter tongue do you mean?
> >
> > I can do the kind with the back of the tongue (gargle style) up into
> > the altissimo but the kind with rolled "r" works only up to around A
> > or B above the staff - unless I sound the note first and then start
> > the flutter. Does that correspond with your experience?
>
> Well, in my case, I find both difficult, and 'real' flutter difficult to
> the extent that I've developed the other, French 'r' so that it's
> 'better' than it usually is.
>
> When you say, up into the altissimo, how high is that?

Just trying it now I fluttered up to D# (above 5th leger line above staff). I
would say that's high enough to satisfy anything which will come in the next
couple of weeks.

>
>
> Would you say that your 'mouth-space' is large (say, broad face and wide
> space between cheeks)?

Yes, large but FWIW, I experience more a feeling of highth rather than width in
my oral cavity whilst fluttering. I think and again, it's only what I *think*
I'm doing, that I flutter further back towards my throat as I play higher.

>
>
> How about tongue length? Halfway down your chin, or more?

What do you mean? The point on the tongue which does the fluttering? Or the
position forward or back in the mouth? I'm sorry I don't manage to describe it
better.

>
>
> Tony
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