Klarinet Archive - Posting 000068.txt from 2001/06
From: Neil Leupold <leupold_1@-----.com>
Subj: Re: [kl] The guru and the internet
Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 12:34:27 -0400
--- Tony Pay <Tony@-----.uk> wrote:
>> On Fri, 1 Jun 2001 15:26:56 -0700 (PDT), leupold_1@-----.com said:
>> Gee, what prompted this? ;-)
>>
>> ~ Neil
> Piss off.
Oops. You lost control and exceeded your a** necessity quota there Tony,
wot? Being such, and knowing what singular substance spews in abundance
from that body part, perhaps it would be best if you kept your sphincter
shut -- eh? Right.
Write what you want, in whatever tone suits you, but this business of
criticizing the validity or usefulness of my or anybody else's contri-
butions to the list is simply crap of a different color from the same
orifice. Nobody deserves to be the object of these meta-commentaries
you habitually post, as if you're in a position to pass judgment on
whether one person's statements will harm or benefit any of the 800+
members of the list. That's not for you to decide, nor for anybody
else beyond the individual readers for themselves, whatever creden-
tials or experience you think "qualifies" you to do so. Unless some-
thing is stated with a discernible intent to mislead -- I have yet to
witness such a thing on Klarinet in 7 years -- the discourse is in-
tended to be free and diverse, regardless of how sophisticated it may
or may not be relative to the standards you carry around inside your
head. Sphincter: closed. Mind: open.
This brings us back to the question of who is ultimately responsible
for the quality and depth of content being broadcast to Klarinet sub-
scribers. News flash, Tony: it isn't you. The same applies to any-
body else who believes that they have the right to imply or demand
that contributions be of a certain level of erudition or rigorous-
ness of thought, never mind grammar, punctuation, or proper sentence
construction. That's just not what Klarinet is about, nor has it
ever been, although the better educated and more experienced con-
tributors are clearly an important component of the community's cul-
ture. The day any of you decides that it's your place to pontificate
to others about whether or not their thoughts are worthy of expres-
sion is the day you ought to start your own list and become its mod-
erator. Or maybe start your own banana republic and punish its citi-
zens for crimethink. Keep that kind of exclusivity away from Klarinet
-- it has already done harm by driving many subscribers into silence,
if not off the list entirely. I doubt that's what Jim Fay had in mind
when he and Cap Bromley launched this list 9 years ago (was Vic Freyer
in on the founding as well in some manner?). In my opinion, the only
thing not to be tolerated, beyond obscenity and off-topic threads, is
intolerance.
Live & let live. And if you don't like what I have to say, delete it.
But keep your crappy intolerant responses to yourself. I'm not off-topic,
and what I submit is always with good intentions and at least a modicum of
educated consideration. That can be said for all 800+ of us. The list
doesn't need to be "protected" from itself by the benevolent self-import-
ance of people who presume that their agenda is what's best for all.
Neil
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