Klarinet Archive - Posting 000041.txt from 2001/04

From: "David C. Kumpf" <dkumpf@-----.com>
Subj: RE: [kl] Meta-music?
Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 12:31:24 -0400

I haven't read all of the posts on this subject in detail, so I may be
missing something here. However, in formal language theory, a meta-language
is a language used to describe other languages. Hence SGML and XML are
metalanguages. (Note that neither address the problem of semantic
interpretation directly, just syntax.)

When we say "meta-music," are we talking about describing music by using
music? Or are we really looking at developing a formal metalanguage for
music? I suspect that there are some that might be considered partial
candidates already, including MIDI and HyTime.

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-----Original Message-----
From: William Wright [mailto:Bilwright@-----.net]
Subject: Re: [kl] Meta-music?

<><> Neil Leupold wrote:
['Meta-music' properly means to] communicate our thoughts on music in
general by playing our instruments, using the actual sound to
communicate our thoughts [snip] Is this what you have in mind Bill?

Yes, --- although that wasn't what I typed, but that was my error.
Presumably you will receive my follow-up post along similar lines soon.

Perhaps I am circling around the concept of music "being true to
itself" which has a problem of logic if done incorrectly. Actually I'm
a bit embarrassed by my original post now, but I still "feel" that
there's a germ of reality in it.... somewhere.

Cheers and thanks,
Bill

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