Klarinet Archive - Posting 000022.txt from 2001/04

From: "Jennifer McKenna" <mai_lin@-----.com>
Subj: [kl] finding a repair tech in New England
Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2001 19:49:17 -0400

I can not say enough about Albert Alphin! He's in Needham, MA - and has
done work on my clarinet before (I also buy ALL my supplies from him), and
he is an unbelievable technician - you can UPS your horn to him and he'll
send it back. He's wonderful really - I recommend you try him.

His number is (781) 449-4197.

Good Luck,

Jennifer McKenna

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Subject: klarinet Digest 1 Apr 2001 20:15:01 -0000 Issue 2992

> klarinet Digest 1 Apr 2001 20:15:01 -0000 Issue 2992
>
> Topics (messages 42536 through 42546):
>
> .....
> 42536 by: Bilwright@-----.net (William Wright)
> 42539 by: AnneLenoir@-----.net (Anne Lenoir)
>
> To Encore or not to encore (Stravinsky's Rite)
> 42537 by: Ed Wojtowicz <ewoj@-----.net>
> 42542 by: stewart kiritz <kiritz@-----.net>
>
> Stoltzman and more
> 42538 by: AnneLenoir@-----.net (Anne Lenoir)
>
> Finding a repair tech in northern new england
> 42540 by: "Dr Gregg Ramsay" <gregg@-----.com>
> 42546 by: Steven Rogers <mrste@-----.net>
>
> Jonathan Cohler and friends in "Clarinetissimo!"
> 42541 by: "Jim Hobby" <jhobby@-----.net>
> 42543 by: stewart kiritz <kiritz@-----.net>
>
> Meta-music?
> 42544 by: Bilwright@-----.net (William Wright)
>
> Clarinetissississimo :)
> 42545 by: Lacy Schroeder <LacyS@-----.org>
>
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> Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2001 00:43:09 -0800 (PST)
> To: klarinet@-----.org
> From: Bilwright@-----.net (William Wright)
> Subject: Re: [kl] .....
> Message-ID: <9798-3AC6EA1D-1785@-----.net>
>
> <><><> I wrote:
> But how is it that music gets bent into discussions of anger, envy,
> jealousy and so forth? @-----.
>
> <><> Neil=A0Leupold wrote:
> It oughtn't. Music has the capacity to both emobody and elicit all of
> these emotions and more.
>
> <chuckle!> But then it _should_ ought to be able to make me feel
> sad, shouldn't it?
>
> (sorry, I couldn't resist. It's April Fool's Day, after all. I
> understand what you're saying, Neil.)
>
> Cheers and happy April Fool's Day!
> -Bill
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2001 08:39:51 -0600 (MDT)
> To: klarinet@-----.org
> From: AnneLenoir@-----.net (Anne Lenoir)
> Subject: Re: [kl] .....
> Message-ID: <24827-3AC73DB7-2859@-----.net>
>
> Bill, I was only admitting my own personal shortcomings to encourage
> others to lighten up a bit. ANNIE
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sun, 01 Apr 2001 07:44:47 -0400
> To: <klarinet@-----.org>
> From: Ed Wojtowicz <ewoj@-----.net>
> Subject: Re: [kl] To Encore or not to encore (Stravinsky's Rite)
> Message-ID: <B6EC8CEE.2E4C%ewoj@-----.net>
>
> I know the feeling. A good number of years ago I played Principal clarinet
> in a performance of Tchaikovsky 6th. As it was December and the conductor
> was concerned about leaving the audience on such a downer of an ending we
> encored with Leroy Anderson's Sleigh ride!
>
> Ed
>
> > From: EstradaMC@-----.com
> > Subject: [kl] To Encore or not to encore (Stravinsky's Rite)
> >
> > This week was a good week for me I got to play the E-flat part in The
Rite of
> > Spring, it doesn't get much better than this. The concert also featured
the
> > profound Beethoven Violin concerto. When the week began I noticed on
the
> > rehearsal schedule that we were scheduled to play an encore, Gliere's
Russian
> > Sailors Dance. I was shocked, how can you possibly play such dribble
after
> > the monumental Stravinsky score. The performances have been going very
well
> > and the orchestra seems to be enjoying some of it's finest moments. The
> > reception by the audience has been altogether different. The concert
ends to
> > polite and reserved applause. I guess management knows just how
conservative
> > our audiences are so they wanted to send them out happy, hence the
Gliere.
> > The tumultuous applause after the Gliere leaves me feeling empty and
> > frustrated. I resent the audience for their limitations and hate that
we
> > pander to the lowest common denominator. I take the shouts of Bravo
after
> > the Gliere as a direct assault on the Stravinsky score. After ninety
years
> > since it's composition the piece is still reviled or at least
inaccessible to
> > so many people. It is such a sad statement of classical music industry.
The
> > audience in not altogether uncultured, usually these are wealthy
retirees
> > from up north and grew up listening to orchestras in Chicago, Cleveland,
> > Minnesota, Detroit, etc. How can we make this music more accessible? I
> > understand that this is not generally a problem in larger markets such
as the
> > ones I mentioned before, but for me it was a blemish on an otherwise
perfect
> > night.
> > Mario E.
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sun, 01 Apr 2001 09:29:36 -0700
> To: klarinet@-----.org
> From: stewart kiritz <kiritz@-----.net>
> Subject: Re: [kl] To Encore or not to encore (Stravinsky's Rite)
> Message-id: <000a01c0bac8$f0fb4b00$0100000a@-----.net>
>
> Hi Mario,
>
> I'm afraid that "wealthy retirees from up north" or elsewhere are the
> majority audience for most classical music concerts these days. I have
> witnessed the graying of the audiences during 40 years of concert going.
It
> would seem that at least in the US, classical music is not a big draw.
Two
> weeks ago my wife and I were invited to a concert by Itzak Perlman at
> Stanford by some old friends who, while very nice, know nothing of music.
> They just have a lot of money and get choice tickets to Stanford events.
I
> think they may also go to symphony concerts occasionally and probably are
> moderately big donors both to the SF Symphony and Stanford University.
They
> made comments after the concert that reflected their complete ignorance of
> the music that was being played. But they are nice folks with a lot of
> money and nice enough to invite us to attend because they know we do know
> about and love music. I guess musicians have to keep these people happy
or
> they will completely disappear, because this is a large part of their
> audience.
>
> What is the solution? I don't know. The human race is very peculiar. We
> produce wonderful art. But the majority of people can't tell it from
> kitsch. We are surrounded by glorious fauna and flora. But we pollute
and
> destroy it. I guess I just try to savor the wonders of art and nature for
> what they are, and appreciate those fellow travelers who also treasure
them.
> I try to support both artists and nature financially and in other ways
> whenever I can. Somewhere out there, even if the earth as we know it
> disappears, there is a Bach Cantata playing in a Platonic space even
though
> no one is there to listen.
>
> Stewart Kiritz
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <EstradaMC@-----.com>
> To: <klarinet@-----.org>
> Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2001 12:59 AM
> Subject: [kl] To Encore or not to encore (Stravinsky's Rite)
>
> > This week was a good week for me I got to play the E-flat part in The
Rite
> of
> > Spring, it doesn't get much better than this. The concert also featured
> the
> > profound Beethoven Violin concerto. When the week began I noticed on
the
> > rehearsal schedule that we were scheduled to play an encore, Gliere's
> Russian
> > Sailors Dance. I was shocked, how can you possibly play such dribble
> after
> > the monumental Stravinsky score. The performances have been going very
> well
> > and the orchestra seems to be enjoying some of it's finest moments. The
> > reception by the audience has been altogether different. The concert
ends
> to
> > polite and reserved applause. I guess management knows just how
> conservative
> > our audiences are so they wanted to send them out happy, hence the
Gliere.
> > The tumultuous applause after the Gliere leaves me feeling empty and
> > frustrated. I resent the audience for their limitations and hate that
we
> > pander to the lowest common denominator. I take the shouts of Bravo
after
> > the Gliere as a direct assault on the Stravinsky score. After ninety
> years
> > since it's composition the piece is still reviled or at least
inaccessible
> to
> > so many people. It is such a sad statement of classical music industry.
> The
> > audience in not altogether uncultured, usually these are wealthy
retirees
> > from up north and grew up listening to orchestras in Chicago, Cleveland,
> > Minnesota, Detroit, etc. How can we make this music more accessible? I
> > understand that this is not generally a problem in larger markets such
as
> the
> > ones I mentioned before, but for me it was a blemish on an otherwise
> perfect
> > night.
> > Mario E.
> >
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> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2001 08:35:53 -0600 (MDT)
> To: klarinet@-----.org
> From: AnneLenoir@-----.net (Anne Lenoir)
> Subject: Re: [kl] Stoltzman and more
> Message-ID: <24830-3AC73CC9-1257@-----.net>
>
> Thank you, Mario. For a while there, I didn't think that I had made my
> point. I was trying to confess my own personal musical bigotry in an
> effort to encourage others to lighten up a bit. By the way, I am now a
> Stoltzman fan. I'm glad that you could empathize with my original
> reaction to his playing that I heard years ago in the pick-up truck on
> the cassett player. ANNIE
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2001 12:04:24 -0400
> To: <klarinet@-----.org>
> From: "Dr Gregg Ramsay" <gregg@-----.com>
> Subject: RE: Finding a repair tech in northern new england
> Message-ID: <NDEBLFDHNBIBCHEJCFLNEEKNCOAA.gregg@-----.com>
>
> Steven,
>
> Try the Village Fret Shoppe in Ashland. They currently have a contract
with
> a couple of really good repair techs. Right now that have my Alto
Clarinet
> and will be getting my Bass on Wednesday. They do an outstanding job
> (they've already worked on by Bb for me) and are reasonable priced
(Complete
> pads, cork and they took all the keys off and replaced springs then
adjusted
> everything on my Alto for $180).
>
> Gregg
> Cornish, NH
>
> Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 15:06:05 -0500
> To: Klarinet List <klarinet@-----.org>
> From: Steven Rogers <mrste@-----.net>
> Subject: Finding a repair tech in northern new england
> Message-Id: <5.0.2.1.0.20010331150428.00aad500@-----.net>
>
> Hello Everyone,
> I'm in search of a repair technician who could be found in the New England
> area. I live in New Hampshire, but would be willing to travel to
> Massachusetts if necessary.
> Thank you in advance,
> Steven
>
> ------------------------------
>
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> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sun, 01 Apr 2001 15:25:16 -0400
> To: klarinet@-----.org
> From: Steven Rogers <mrste@-----.net>
> Subject: Re: [kl] RE: Finding a repair tech in northern new england
> Message-Id: <5.0.2.1.0.20010401152418.00aa7ec0@-----.net>
>
> Thank you for the information. Do you have contace info for the Village
> Fret Shoppe? I tried searching their phone number but nothing seemed to
> show up.
> Thanks, Steven
>
> At 12:04 PM 4/1/01 -0400, you wrote:
> >Steven,
> >
> >Try the Village Fret Shoppe in Ashland. They currently have a contract
with
> >a couple of really good repair techs. Right now that have my Alto
Clarinet
> >and will be getting my Bass on Wednesday. They do an outstanding job
> >(they've already worked on by Bb for me) and are reasonable priced
(Complete
> >pads, cork and they took all the keys off and replaced springs then
adjusted
> >everything on my Alto for $180).
> >
> >Gregg
> >Cornish, NH
> >
> >Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 15:06:05 -0500
> >To: Klarinet List <klarinet@-----.org>
> >From: Steven Rogers <mrste@-----.net>
> >Subject: Finding a repair tech in northern new england
> >Message-Id: <5.0.2.1.0.20010331150428.00aad500@-----.net>
> >
> >Hello Everyone,
> > I'm in search of a repair technician who could be found in the
> > New England
> >area. I live in New Hampshire, but would be willing to travel to
> >Massachusetts if necessary.
> > Thank you in advance,
> > Steven
> >
> >------------------------------
> >
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> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2001 11:31:29 -0500
> To: <klarinet@-----.org>
> From: "Jim Hobby" <jhobby@-----.net>
> Subject: Re: [kl] RE: Jonathan Cohler and friends in "Clarinetissimo!"
> Message-ID: <001101c0bac9$38327e80$0201a8c0@-----.net>
>
> Actually, your post reminded me of a joke I heard a week or so ago, I
think,
> on one of the NPR broadcasts. "In the sixties, we all took LSD to take
the
> brutal edge off reality. Now that we've reached 60, we take Prozac to put
> the edge of reality back on our fantasy." (Close, but not an exact quote.
> <g>)
>
> Since many of the responses concerned comments about professional jealousy
> and Richard Stoltzman, I'd add that lusting (one of the Seven Deadly
Sins?)
> after some aspect of other musician's performance -- technique, tone,
> facility, articulation; whatever -- is obviously quite common. In most
> cases, it's not a problem, but just drives us to greater efforts. It only
> becomes a problem when it becomes obsessive.
>
> At the risk of restiring the pot, I'll say that >personally< I don't like
to
> listen to RS for one reason. I don't like vibrato on the clarinet in
> "classical" performance. My personal taste, only. Obviously, he's a fine
> player, and a very popular one, and certainly a personable one, from those
> who have met him. He played a concert a year or so ago with the Nashville
> SO. I couldn't get there for the concert, but a trombonist friend did,
> taking a batch of both of our students. Everyone seemed to be quite
> impressed by his performance.
>
> Jim Hobby
>
> >From: Richard Bush <rbushidioglot@-----.com>
> >
> >Jim,
> >
> >We all need to apologize. We get down in the dumps, the doldrums as it
were
> and
> >we just don't have anything else to do but to reach such a new low. (BTW
my
> >prozac prescription ran out.) Maybe you could offer something that would
> cheer
> >me and the rest of us up. :-)
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sun, 01 Apr 2001 10:08:37 -0700
> To: klarinet@-----.org
> From: stewart kiritz <kiritz@-----.net>
> Subject: Re: [kl] RE: Jonathan Cohler and friends in "Clarinetissimo!"
> Message-id: <000801c0bace$64ac0bc0$0100000a@-----.net>
>
> Mario,
>
> Re Richard Stoltzman,
>
> Obviously Mr. Stolzman has prodigeous talents on the clarinet and
musically
> in general. Personally, like a previous poster, I don't much enjoy
vibrato
> on the clarinet except when used extremely sparingly. For this reason
there
> are many other clarinetists who I simply enjoy listening to more. It's
just
> a question of taste, not good taste or bad, but individual taste. I'd
much
> rather hear a Harold Wright recording, Larry Combs, many, many others.
>
> Stewart Kiritz
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jim Hobby" <jhobby@-----.net>
> To: <klarinet@-----.org>
> Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2001 9:31 AM
> Subject: Re: [kl] RE: Jonathan Cohler and friends in "Clarinetissimo!"
>
> > Actually, your post reminded me of a joke I heard a week or so ago, I
> think,
> > on one of the NPR broadcasts. "In the sixties, we all took LSD to take
> the
> > brutal edge off reality. Now that we've reached 60, we take Prozac to
put
> > the edge of reality back on our fantasy." (Close, but not an exact
quote.
> > <g>)
> >
> > Since many of the responses concerned comments about professional
jealousy
> > and Richard Stoltzman, I'd add that lusting (one of the Seven Deadly
> Sins?)
> > after some aspect of other musician's performance -- technique, tone,
> > facility, articulation; whatever -- is obviously quite common. In most
> > cases, it's not a problem, but just drives us to greater efforts. It
only
> > becomes a problem when it becomes obsessive.
> >
> > At the risk of restiring the pot, I'll say that >personally< I don't
like
> to
> > listen to RS for one reason. I don't like vibrato on the clarinet in
> > "classical" performance. My personal taste, only. Obviously, he's a
fine
> > player, and a very popular one, and certainly a personable one, from
those
> > who have met him. He played a concert a year or so ago with the
Nashville
> > SO. I couldn't get there for the concert, but a trombonist friend did,
> > taking a batch of both of our students. Everyone seemed to be quite
> > impressed by his performance.
> >
> > Jim Hobby
> >
> >
> > >From: Richard Bush <rbushidioglot@-----.com>
> > >
> > >Jim,
> > >
> > >We all need to apologize. We get down in the dumps, the doldrums as it
> were
> > and
> > >we just don't have anything else to do but to reach such a new low.
(BTW
> my
> > >prozac prescription ran out.) Maybe you could offer something that
would
> > cheer
> > >me and the rest of us up. :-)
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2001 10:50:52 -0700 (PDT)
> To: klarinet@-----.org
> From: Bilwright@-----.net (William Wright)
> Subject: Meta-music?
> Message-ID: <6098-3AC76A7C-3145@-----.net>
>
> Our recent discussions about good vs bad music (or performers
> thereof) make a point about the language that we use to discuss music.
>
> We've all heard the paradox: "This sentence is a lie." If this
> sentence _is_ a lie, then the sentence is declaring itself to be true
> and therefore it _isn't_ a lie....
>
> The resolution is that a language cannot logically describe its own
> rules. Statements that describe a language's rules obey a separate
> language of their own (sometimes called a meta-language) even if the
> dictionaries for both languages happen include identical printed or
> acoustic patterns as symbols (words).
>
> We should recognize a similar paradox when we use a musical rule to
> describe music. "Good musical skills" can "sound awful", and vice
> versa and inversely and conversely and so forth. I think that some of
> this paradox has crept into our discussion of Stoltzman's music.
> Having command of the "rules and techniques" may or may not mean that
> you enjoy the content of his music. When you try to transfer from a
> "rule" to the "content" (from meta-language to language), you can end up
> with uncomfortable arguments and/or statements.
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2001 13:09:34 -0500
> To: "'klarinet@-----.org>
> From: Lacy Schroeder <LacyS@-----.org>
> Subject: RE: [kl] Clarinetissississimo :)
> Message-ID: <C21103DE471CD3118B4B0000E867D335CDE2B1=MAIL>
>
> I wasn't offended, either. I'm only sorry that I'm halfway across the
> country and can't come!
>
> Mr. Cohler, I remember working with you at the National Youth Orchestra
> Festival at Interlochen a few years back. I enjoyed the whole experience
> thoroughly, including your coaching sessions. (I was in the orchestra
> playing Mahler 1)
>
> Congrats, and I'm sure the performance was spectacular!
>
> Lacy Schroeder
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rgarrett@-----.edu]
> Sent: Friday, March 30, 2001 7:30 AM
> To: klarinet@-----.org
> Subject: Re: [kl] Clarinetissississimo :)
>
> I was not in the least bit offended by the announcement. I hope they
> continue......
>
> Best wishes,
> Roger Garrett
>
> At 08:18 AM 03/30/2001 -0500, you wrote:
> >Sorry if my concert announcement offended some. I did instruct my record
> >company, Ongaku Records, to post the announcement to the list. Of
course,
> >this was based on years of watching concert announcements such as the one
> >below (from today) flow through my inbox.
> >
> >It is a list about clarinet, after all.
> >
> >Perhaps people object to the use of adjectives and quotations of reviews
in
> >announcements? Ongaku simply posted the same announcement that was
mailed
> >out on postcards, sent to the newspapers, posted on the web, etc...
> >
> >In the future, would the list prefer adjective-free and quotation-free
> >announcements in the form of?
> >
> > Who:
> > What:
> > When:
> > Where:
> > How Much:
> >
> >If so, perhaps Mark should post this proviso as a policy of the list.
> >However, I would like to note that it most certainly has never been done
> >that way in the past.
> >
> >--Jonathan Cohler
> >
> >
> > >(Apologies to JC),
> > >
> > >Just a brief announcement: for those in the Toronto area, longtime UofT
> band
> > >conductor and trumpet teacher Stephen Chenette is retiring after this
> > >semester, and this Sat.night is the big sendoff. Pines of Rome, a Holst
> > >Suite and lots of alumni coming back to join the combined bands to play
> > >several marches, plus the world premiere of a jazzy new clarinet
concerto
> by
> > >faculty composer John Hawkins (ok ok, I confess, I'm the
> clarinetist...sorry
> > >for the plug!). "Summer Dances" is a really great piece with terrific
> > >orchestration, and deserves to be heard, so if you're in the area and
> want a
> > >comp ticket, drop me a line...
> > >
> > >Peter Stoll
> > >
> > >University of Toronto
> > >Toronto Philharmonia
> > >Continuum Contemporary Music
> > >ERGO ensemble
> > >
> >
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http://www.hotmail.com.
> > >
> > >
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> Roger Garrett
> Clarinet Professor
> Director, Symphonic Winds
> Illinois Wesleyan University
> School of Music
> Bloomington, IL 61702-2900
> Phone: (309) 556-3268
> Fax: (309) 556-3121
>
> From the London Daily News, circa 1926:
>
> "The saxophone is a long metal instrument bent at both ends. It is
alleged
> to be musical. As regards markings, the creature has a series of tiny
taps
> stuck upon it, apparently at random. These taps are very sensitive: when
> touched they cause the instrument to utter miserable sounds suggesting
> untold agony. Sometimes it bursts into tears. At either end there is a
> hole. People, sometimes for no reason at all, blow down the small end of
> the saxophone which then shrieks and moans."
>
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