Klarinet Archive - Posting 000638.txt from 2001/03
From: stewart kiritz <kiritz@-----.net>
Subj: Re: [kl] Re: sound/close miking in studio
Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2001 18:01:04 -0500
Thanks, Ben, for you as-always useful information. I do have a portable DAT
deck but just haven't got organized to use it yet. It is not as intuitive
to use as the pro walkman. Perhaps with my present mike and the DAT I can
get something that is useful for my purposes, at least for getting a sense
of what I am doing if not an accurate representation. At some point it
would be fun, though, to have a proper home studio.
Glad to hear Mitchell is well. Yes, I also have the Hindemith and Reger
with the Muir Quartet -- another superb clarinet disc.
Stewart
----- Original Message -----
From: "Benjamin Maas" <benmaas@-----.com>
Subject: RE: [kl] Re: sound/close miking in studio
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: stewart kiritz [mailto:kiritz@-----.net]
> >
> > Benjamin,
> >
> > The information on recording is very interesting! I am trying to record
> > myself to work on my sound and am using a Sony ECM MS-957 along
> > with an old
> > Walkman Pro.
> >
> > So while this project is not for professional recording it is important
to
> > me to try to do as best as I can to capture the sound others will
> > hear so I
> > can work on my tone production. I find the recording is very
> > useful in many
> > ways, regarding little lapses of breath support and other technical
> > imperfections. But I am not sure it sounds a lot like me. My
> > wife says it
> > doesn't. How would you characterize this mike, and is there a "step up"
I
> > could take without spending the $1200 for the Coles? Or can I find a
used
> > Coles somewhere? Or would that be overkill? Interestingly I saw the
RCA
> > you mentioned on ebay but bidding has reached $1050, bringing it close
to
> > the Coles.
>
> There are several ways that you can "step up" in recording quality
depending
> upon how much you want to spend. The easiest way would be to buy an Audio
> Technica Stereo microphone and a DAT machine or a Mini-disc (get a Sony if
> you do).
>
> The mics that I have mentioned are all professional tools. Just like with
> your clarinets (from Bundy to Buffet R-13), there is a big difference
> between a $100 SM-58 and a $1300 Coles or a $7000 Neumann U47. (We just
> need to buy a bunch of these very expensive tools). When you get to this
> level you really need a mixing board or microphone preamplifier that can
> supply phantom power. Condensers need it, but if you put phantom through
a
> ribbon mic, you end up ruining your mic. As for the RCA's on ebay, many
of
> them need new ribbons. Ribbons stretch and wear out and need to be
replaced
> periodically. Add another $400 for that re-ribbon job per mic.
>
> If you want to get something better than a mic plugging into a minidisc,
I'd
> suggest a Mackie 1202 mixing board, a pair of Shure SM-81s or Marshall
> 2003's, and a Tascam DA-20 DAT machine. That setup (plus a mic stand,
> cables, and stereo bar) will run you about $1600 or so.. {Perhaps more, I
> don't know exact prices)
>
> > Great to have an audio expert on the forum. And as I recall, a former
> > Mitchell Lurie student. How did he seem at the celebration for him?
And
> > did he play? I just relistened to the recording he made of the Brahms
> > Quintet and found it amazing in the way he blended with the strings,
> > phrasing, control, everything.
> >
> > Stewart Kiritz
>
> I am indeed a former student of Mitchell Lurie (and Peter Hadcock/Ken
Grant
> from Eastman). Mitchell's doing great.... Getting old, but he's still
> doing well. He didn't play at the celebration as he has officially
stopped
> playing as of a year or two ago... However Michelle Zukovsky, David
Howard,
> David Peck, Yehuda Gilad, Hokan Rosengren, Clarence Padilla, and others
> did... The Brahms quintet recording is in my opinion one of the great
> recordings of that piece. He also has another great recent recording of
the
> Hindemith Quartet and Reger Quintet on the same label with the same
players.
>
> --Ben
>
> Benjamin Maas
> Fifth Circle Audio
> Los Angeles, CA
> benmaas@-----.com
> http://www.fifthcircle.com
>
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> Unsubscribe from Klarinet, e-mail: klarinet-unsubscribe@-----.org
> Subscribe to the Digest: klarinet-digest-subscribe@-----.org
> Additional commands: klarinet-help@-----.org
> Other problems: klarinet-owner@-----.org
>
---------------------------------------------------------------------
Unsubscribe from Klarinet, e-mail: klarinet-unsubscribe@-----.org
Subscribe to the Digest: klarinet-digest-subscribe@-----.org
Additional commands: klarinet-help@-----.org
Other problems: klarinet-owner@-----.org
