Klarinet Archive - Posting 000637.txt from 2001/03

From: Sonia Sielaff <one_sweet_peach@-----.com>
Subj: RE: [kl] Re: sound/close miking in studio
Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2001 17:46:50 -0500

Benjamin,

I recently bought a Sony MZ-R70 mini-disc recorder,
and I'm looking at different microphones for it.
There are two Sony microphones that are good for
mini-disc recording. One is a small clip-on, while
the other is attached to a little stand, and can be
adjusted at different angles. The price difference is
only about $10, the latter being about $79. Do you
think these would be the best microphones for
mini-disc recording?
Thanks,
Sonia

--- Benjamin Maas <benmaas@-----.com> wrote:
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: stewart kiritz [mailto:kiritz@-----.net]
> >
> > Benjamin,
> >
> > The information on recording is very interesting!
> I am trying to record
> > myself to work on my sound and am using a Sony ECM
> MS-957 along
> > with an old
> > Walkman Pro.
> >
> > So while this project is not for professional
> recording it is important to
> > me to try to do as best as I can to capture the
> sound others will
> > hear so I
> > can work on my tone production. I find the
> recording is very
> > useful in many
> > ways, regarding little lapses of breath support
> and other technical
> > imperfections. But I am not sure it sounds a lot
> like me. My
> > wife says it
> > doesn't. How would you characterize this mike,
> and is there a "step up" I
> > could take without spending the $1200 for the
> Coles? Or can I find a used
> > Coles somewhere? Or would that be overkill?
> Interestingly I saw the RCA
> > you mentioned on ebay but bidding has reached
> $1050, bringing it close to
> > the Coles.
>
> There are several ways that you can "step up" in
> recording quality depending
> upon how much you want to spend. The easiest way
> would be to buy an Audio
> Technica Stereo microphone and a DAT machine or a
> Mini-disc (get a Sony if
> you do).
>
> The mics that I have mentioned are all professional
> tools. Just like with
> your clarinets (from Bundy to Buffet R-13), there is
> a big difference
> between a $100 SM-58 and a $1300 Coles or a $7000
> Neumann U47. (We just
> need to buy a bunch of these very expensive tools).
> When you get to this
> level you really need a mixing board or microphone
> preamplifier that can
> supply phantom power. Condensers need it, but if
> you put phantom through a
> ribbon mic, you end up ruining your mic. As for the
> RCA's on ebay, many of
> them need new ribbons. Ribbons stretch and wear out
> and need to be replaced
> periodically. Add another $400 for that re-ribbon
> job per mic.
>
> If you want to get something better than a mic
> plugging into a minidisc, I'd
> suggest a Mackie 1202 mixing board, a pair of Shure
> SM-81s or Marshall
> 2003's, and a Tascam DA-20 DAT machine. That setup
> (plus a mic stand,
> cables, and stereo bar) will run you about $1600 or
> so.. {Perhaps more, I
> don't know exact prices)
>
> > Great to have an audio expert on the forum. And
> as I recall, a former
> > Mitchell Lurie student. How did he seem at the
> celebration for him? And
> > did he play? I just relistened to the recording
> he made of the Brahms
> > Quintet and found it amazing in the way he blended
> with the strings,
> > phrasing, control, everything.
> >
> > Stewart Kiritz
>
> I am indeed a former student of Mitchell Lurie (and
> Peter Hadcock/Ken Grant
> from Eastman). Mitchell's doing great.... Getting
> old, but he's still
> doing well. He didn't play at the celebration as he
> has officially stopped
> playing as of a year or two ago... However Michelle
> Zukovsky, David Howard,
> David Peck, Yehuda Gilad, Hokan Rosengren, Clarence
> Padilla, and others
> did... The Brahms quintet recording is in my
> opinion one of the great
> recordings of that piece. He also has another great
> recent recording of the
> Hindemith Quartet and Reger Quintet on the same
> label with the same players.
>
> --Ben
>
> Benjamin Maas
> Fifth Circle Audio
> Los Angeles, CA
> benmaas@-----.com
> http://www.fifthcircle.com
>
>
>
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