Klarinet Archive - Posting 000498.txt from 2001/03

From: Corinne Miller <miller10@-----.edu>
Subj: [kl] Re: klarinet Digest 13 Jan 2001 21:15:01 -0000 Issue 2829
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 12:01:23 -0500

At 09:15 PM 01/13/2001 +0000, you wrote:
>klarinet Digest 13 Jan 2001 21:15:01 -0000 Issue 2829
>
>Topics (messages 40038 through 40047):
>
>ligatures
> 40038 by: "Dee D. Hays" <deehays@-----.net>
> 40040 by: Blackwell Family <gub1@-----.net>
> 40042 by: "Dee D. Hays" <deehays@-----.net>
> 40045 by: rgarrett@-----.edu
>
>"Finding Forrester" - Strange String Instrument
> 40039 by: DGross1226@-----.com
>
>Online Music Dictionary Needed
> 40041 by: "ikebders" <ikebders@-----.com>
>
>Composer vs. performer
> 40043 by: bhampton <bhampton@-----.edu>
>
>Stroh violin
> 40044 by: "James Lytthans" <lytthans@-----.net>
>
>Optimus
> 40046 by: "James Lytthans" <lytthans@-----.net>
>
>klarinet Digest 13 Jan 2001 09:15:01 -0000 Issue 2828
> 40047 by: Margy Houtz <dhoutz@-----.com>
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>Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2001 08:32:25 -0500
>To: <klarinet@-----.org>
>From: "Dee D. Hays" <deehays@-----.net>
>Subject: Re: [kl] ligatures
>Message-ID: <001801c07d65$44d43260$4472903f=computer>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Forrest Davie" <mcpusc@-----.com>
>To: <klarinet@-----.org>
>Sent: Friday, January 12, 2001 11:28 PM
>Subject: [kl] ligatures
>
> > I have seen the clarinets in my band using a ligature
> > that looks like a piece of black leather, with a screw
> > mechanism on top. Does anyone now what these ligatures
> > are called, and are they availible for bass clarinet.
> > If not, are there other suggestions for a good
> > ligature to use. I have heard my director say these
> > are 'the best', and I would appreciate any responses.
>
>When the screws are on top, this is referred to as an inverted ligature.
>They come in many designs including metal, plastic, leather like material,
>etc.
>
>As someone else has already said, these sound like the Rovner ligature.
>This is an excellent ligature, however let me caution you. There is no one
>ligature that is "best" for everyone. I have used the Rovner ligature. On
>my Vandoren B45 mouthpiece, it works great and I love it. On my Vandoren
>5RV mouthpiece, it dampens the reed vibration too much for me and I can't
>use it. On this mouthpiece, my little inexpensive Luyben (an inverted
>plastic ligature) gives me the response that I want. Yet someone else might
>be quite satisfied with the Rovner on a 5RV.
>
>Dee Hays
>Michigan
>
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>
>Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2001 11:36:11 -0500
>To: klarinet@-----.org
>From: Blackwell Family <gub1@-----.net>
>Subject: Re: [kl] ligatures
>Message-id: <000a01c07d7e$f1135060$92f290cf=grierblackweldr>
>
>the ligatures you were talking about are called Rovner Ligatures. they are
>the best ligatures you can buy for a clarinet. they cost about $20. they
>last for a very long time. i would highly advise you to invest in one.
>
> bill blackwelder
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Forrest Davie <mcpusc@-----.com>
>To: klarinet@-----.org>
>Date: Friday, January 12, 2001 11:28 PM
>Subject: [kl] ligatures
>
> >I have seen the clarinets in my band using a ligature
> >that looks like a piece of black leather, with a screw
> >mechanism on top. Does anyone now what these ligatures
> >are called, and are they availible for bass clarinet.
> >If not, are there other suggestions for a good
> >ligature to use. I have heard my director say these
> >are 'the best', and I would appreciate any responses.
> >
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>Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2001 12:54:32 -0500
>To: <klarinet@-----.org>
>From: "Dee D. Hays" <deehays@-----.net>
>Subject: Re: [kl] ligatures
>Message-ID: <000b01c07d89$e3001980$3472903f=computer>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Blackwell Family" <gub1@-----.net>
>To: <klarinet@-----.org>
>Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2001 11:36 AM
>Subject: Re: [kl] ligatures
>
> > the ligatures you were talking about are called Rovner Ligatures. they are
> > the best ligatures you can buy for a clarinet. they cost about $20. they
> > last for a very long time. i would highly advise you to invest in one.
> >
>
>There is no one best. For example, it doesn't work for me on my 5RV
>mouthpiece even though it's great on my B45.
>
>Dee Hays
>Michigan
>
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>
>Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2001 12:35:20 -0600
>To: klarinet@-----.org
>From: rgarrett@-----.edu
>Subject: Re: [kl] ligatures
>Message-Id: <5.0.0.25.0.20010113123404.01f85d10@-----.edu>
>
>At 11:36 AM 1/13/01 -0500, you wrote:
> >the ligatures you were talking about are called Rovner Ligatures. they are
> >the best ligatures you can buy for a clarinet. they cost about $20. they
> >last for a very long time. i would highly advise you to invest in one.
> >
> > bill blackwelder
>
>Bill,
>
>They certainly have their merits, but they must not be the best for
>everyone - since a large majority of people do not use them - yet know
>about them. I have a couple in my drawer that I don't use
>anymore - one for bass clarinet and one for soprano.
>
>Sincerely,
>Roger Garrett
>
>Roger Garrett
>Clarinet Professor
>Director, Symphonic Winds
>Advisor, Recording Services
>Illinois Wesleyan University
>School of Music
>Bloomington, IL 61702-2900
>(309) 556-3268
>
>"A man never discloses his own character so clearly as when he describes
>another's."
> Jean Paul Richter (1763-1825)
>
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>
>Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2001 11:16:26 EST
>To: klarinet@-----.org
>From: DGross1226@-----.com
>Subject: Re: "Finding Forrester" - Strange String Instrument
>Message-ID: <db.ed22833.2791d95a@-----.com>
>
>In a message dated 01-01-13 04:15:57 EST, you write:
>
><< ...it sounds like you're describing a Strohviol. Did it look like the one
>at the top of
>http://www.larkinam.com/MenComNet/Business/Retail/LarkNet/BowedInstEurope?>>
>
>That's the one! The crazy part is that my copy off Lark in the Morning's
>Winter 2000 newsletter was sitting about three feet from my desk all the
>time! The Romanian "Trumpet Violin" pictured just below the Stroh Violin is
>close, too. Thanks, Grant!
>
>Don
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2001 10:56:53 -0600
>To: "Klarinet@-----.org>
>From: "ikebders" <ikebders@-----.com>
>Subject: Online Music Dictionary Needed
>Message-ID: <CJEPKLMHAAFOOAOGKCPFEEFFCAAA.ikebders@-----.com>
>
>Thanks to all who responded to my question on music notation programs.
>
>Now, please help again. I need to locate a "quality" free online dictionary
>of music terms. Any recommendations?
>
>I greatly appreciate you input.
>
>Shop online without a credit card
>http://www.rocketcash.com
>RocketCash, a NetZero subsidiary
>
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>
>Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2001 13:20:23 -0500
>To: klarinet@-----.org
>From: bhampton <bhampton@-----.edu>
>Subject: RE: [kl] Composer vs. performer
>Message-ID: <3A5FA2AB@-----.edu>
>
>I believe we finally came to the conclusion that the performer actually has
>very little obligation towards the composer's intentions. There is no way a
>performer today can possibly get inside Mozart's head to find out what he
>really wanted a certain passage to sound like or anything. Even with a living
>composer, it's not practical. Part of the performer's job is reading and
>interpreting what is printed in the music; theoretically, the composer has
>noted down everything that he deems important and wants specified. Therefore,
>if it is not in the music, it is open for interpretation. We looked at an
>example of a player playing a misprinted note in one of Beethoven's pieces,
>and upon hearing it, Beethoven decided he liked that note better, anyway. So
>performners have every right to read and interpret the music according to
>what
>they get out of it, even if it's totally different from what the composer's
>"true intentions" may have been.
>
>Bailey
>
>@-----.org =====
> > <><> Bailey Hampton wrote:
> >
> >This past semester I took a course called "Truth in Music". We focused
> >heavily on the differences between composer intentions versus performers
> >intentions and to what extent the performer had to remain "faithful" to
> >the composer. [snip of interesting material]
> >
> >
> >
> > Given that the course accepted the premise that composers and
> >performers have in fact drifted apart over the centuries --- and I'm
> >hoping that you're willing to post some more? --- I would like to hear
> >something more about what the course said about a performer's
> >responsibilty (or independence)?
> >
> >Cheers, and Thank You for replying,
> > Bill
> >
> >
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>Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2001 10:27:38 -0800
>To: "Don Gross" <DGross1226@-----.com>
>From: "James Lytthans" <lytthans@-----.net>
>Cc: "Klarinet List (Mail)" <klarinet@-----.org>
>Subject: Stroh violin
>Message-ID: <001101c07d8e$832bfce0$0201a8c0=hppav>
>
>Don,
>
>The URL for Stroh violin is incorrect. It should be:
>http://www.larkinam.com/MenComNet/Business/Retail/Larknet/BowedInstEurope
>
>I have several pictures of acoustic recording session from the early party
>of the last century
>showing the Stroh violin. My grandfather used to make them in Chicago. Wish
>I had one of his.
>--------------------
>Jim Lytthans
>Anaheim, CA
>Principal Clarinet - La Mirada SO,
>Claremont Winds & Pomona Concert Band
>Member Local 47 -AF of M
>Home Page - http://www.geocities.com/klarineter
>
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>
>Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2001 10:34:31 -0800
>To: "Klarinet List (Mail)" <klarinet@-----.org>
>From: "James Lytthans" <lytthans@-----.net>
>Subject: Optimus
>Message-ID: <002101c07d8f$78f08d80$0201a8c0=hppav>
>
>I use the Vandoren Optimus on my alto (sax, that is...). Very free blowing
>ligature. They are expensive, though.
>
>--------------------
>Jim Lytthans
>Anaheim, CA
>Principal Clarinet - La Mirada SO,
>Claremont Winds & Pomona Concert Band
>Member Local 47 -AF of M
>Home Page - http://www.geocities.com/klarineter
>
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>
>Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2001 11:32:08 -0800
>To: <klarinet@-----.org>
>From: Margy Houtz <dhoutz@-----.com>
>Subject: Re: klarinet Digest 13 Jan 2001 09:15:01 -0000 Issue 2828
>Message-ID: <B685ED38.35DC%dhoutz@-----.com>
>
> >> @-----.org =====
> >>> Sorry for the off-topic post, but I've no luck identifying the
> > violin-like,
> >>> bowed-string instrument with a horn-shaped resonator instead of an
> > hourglass
> >>> soundbox with f-holes. The on-screen time consisted of only two very
> > quick
> >>> cuts of a society orchestra. Can any one help? Never saw anything like
> > it
> >>> before.
> >>>
> >>> Don Gross
> >>> La Canada, California
> >>>
> The instrument you describe is a "Trumpet Violin" I have seen them in
>Romania and Hungary. They are used by the Gypsys and others. You can buy
>them, and see them in the catalogue of Lark in the Morning:
>www.catalog:http://www.larkinam.com along with a lot of other
>interesting, international stuff.
>
>Dave Houtz
>Los Olivos, California
>
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