Klarinet Archive - Posting 000427.txt from 2001/03

From: stewart kiritz <kiritz@-----.net>
Subj: Re: [kl] embouchure woes
Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 16:36:21 -0500

That is a good explanation and actually is not far from what I do with my
embouchure. Unfortunately, the muscles at the side of the corners of the
mouth still seem to be the culprits, and I just can't hold a firm embouchure
for very long. I think I just need to keep at it. I can't imagine that the
strength will not come eventually, unless I have a sudden case of MS.

Stewart Kiritz

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gary Van Cott" <gary@-----.com>
Subject: Re: [kl] embouchure woes

> I am not sure it makes much sense without the pictures, but instead of
> pulling the corners of the mouth out in a smile (which is what I was
taught
> in the late 1950s) the corners are drawn in as if you were making an "oo"
> sound.
>
> Gary
>
>
> At 12:17 PM 3/17/01, you wrote:
> >Gary,
> >
> >This sounds like a book I should have! In the meantime, is there any way
you
> >can explain briefly his main point? I actually don't think of smiling
when
> >I play, but the muscles around the mouth still need to support the reed,
and
> >some of these muscles are the ones that also are involved in smiling. So
I
> >was making reference to what muscles seem to get fatigued earliest,
rather
> >than my style of embouchure. However, I can try to pay attention to
whether
> >in fact I can smile less and thereby reduce fatigue in these muscles.
> >
> >Stewart
> >
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Gary Van Cott" <gary@-----.com>
> >To: <klarinet@-----.org>
> >Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2001 12:17 PM
> >Subject: Re: [kl] embouchure woes
> >
> >
> > > Larry Guy, in his book Embouchure Building for Clarinetists, has a
section
> > > entitled "American Clarinetist Never Smile (While They Play)." I was
> > > taught the smile too, but Larry says "The 'smile' embouchure, once
fairly
> > > common, has fallen into disfavor among clarinetists in America,
because it
> > > invites air leakage, affords less control of the reed, and tends to
allow
> > > the sound to spread and flatten out."
> > >
> > > I have found it easy to change to an embouchure along the lines of
what
> > > Larry recommends since my chin position was already ok.
> > >
> > > Gary
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> > >
> > > At 11:49 AM 3/17/01, you wrote:
> > > >Karl,
> > > >
> > > >Thanks for your thoughts. I feel the problem in the muscles in the
> >dimple
> > > >of my "smile." After a short time it goes into fatigue and I can't
hold
> >the
> > > >embouchure.I don't remember the name of this muscle. It could be
> >excessive
> > > >tension somewhere, but it never has been a problem in the past so I
don't
> > > >this is the case, but....
> > > >
> > > >Stewart
> > >
> > >
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