Klarinet Archive - Posting 000038.txt from 2001/03

From: Roger Shilcock <roger.shilcock@-----.uk>
Subj: Re: [kl] Landler of Mozart Ornamented
Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 11:10:53 -0500

Er ... I do, and, technically I'm not-- but I'm a long way away.......
Oh, well..
Roger S.

In message <3A9EF6AE.47926A8E@-----.org writes:
> Whew - Dan! Cut it out! This is just too sexy for words: men who read
> scholarly tomes AND play clarinet ???!!! Any more of you types out there - but
> unmarried? Email me fast....
>
> Audrey
>
> Daniel Leeson wrote:
>
> > Here are a few of the things I've been reading.
> >
> > Wye Jamison Allanbrook, "Rhythmic Gesture in Mozart", 1983, U. of
> > Chicago Press
> >
> > Rebecca Harris-Warrick, "Ballroom Dancing at the Court of Louis XIV,"
> > Early Music 14 (1): 41-49, 1989
> >
> > Wendy Hilton, "Dance of Court and Theater: The French Noble Style
> > 1690-1725" 1981, London Dance Books.
> >
> > Article on the minuet as found in the The New Grove
> >
> > GEnnaro Magri's "Theoretical and Practical Treatise on Dancing" London
> > Books, 1988
> >
> > Eric McKee, "The Influence of the Functional Minuet in the French Suites
> > of J.S. Bach," 1999 Music Analysis 18 (2)
> >
> > Sarah Rechart, "The Influence of the Eighteenth-Century Social Dance on
> > the Viennese Classical Style," 1984, Ph. D. diss., City University of
> > New York
> >
> > Tilden Russell, "Minuet, Scherzando, and Scherzo: The Dance Movement in
> > Transition, 1781-1825," 1983, Ph. D. diss., Univ. of North Carolina.
> >
> > Same author: "The Unconvential Dance Minuet: Choreographies of the
> > Menuet d'Exaudet," Acta Musicology 64.
> >
> > Erik Smith, Mozart Serenades, Divertimento and Dances, 1982. London
> > British Broadcast Company. (This one I have to get from London)
> >
> > Giovanni Gallini, "A Treatise on the Art of Dancing," Facsimile edition,
> > Broude Brothers.
> >
> > Also see the Library of Congress digited dance collection:
> >
> > http://memory.loc.gov/ammem/dihtml/dihome.html
> >
> > There are also a pile in German and French if you can handle those.
> >
> > Anne Bell wrote:
> > >
> > > It is my understanding that the Minuett has slowed down from its first
> > > introduction as a dance like many of the early dances as they became
> > > formalized and stylized. I've garnered most of this information from my
> > > local early music guru who reads widely and constantly. I did recently buy
> > > a book with the steps and instructions for early dances- I'll let you know
> > > if it has anything relevant.
> > > Best Wishes,
> > > Anne
> > >
> > > At 09:22 AM 2/27/01 -0800, you wrote:
> > > >My understanding of tempos is that a Menuett is quite slow - quarter note
> > > >equalling anywhere from 100 down to 80. I know that modern practice has
> > > >everyone playing faster, but perhaps those of you who dance Menuetts can
> > > >tell us what a good tempo is. The Menuetts I've seen danced were in this
> > > >tempo, and there is a wonderful recording of the Gran Partitta (notice
> > > >corrected spelling, per earlier discussion) with Moyese coaching that has
> > > >the first menuett in this tempo. Quite good when done with the kind of
> > > >phrasing that tempo requires.
> > > >I've always understood a Menuett to be felt in Three, where a Landler would
> > > >be in a slow one, in a similar tempo with the emphasis on the First beat (I
> > > >know a previous post recommended Three and cited the Brahms f minor sonata
> > > >second strain, third movement - I'd like to see you pulse the third beat of
> > > >bar three of that strain! - I think the Polonaise/Polacca is the one that
> > > >gets the third beat emphasis)
> > > >
> > > >Sean Osborn, clarinetist - retired, Metropolitan Opera Orchestra
> > > >http://www.geocities.com/Vienna/Choir/4401/
> > > >http://www.mp3.com/metopera/
> > >
> > > *********************************************************************
> > > Anne Bell bell@-----.net
> > > Bayside HS Orchestra Director
> > > ABC Index: http://www.anne-bell.sneezy.org/ MUSIC LINKS!
> > > *********************************************************************
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