Klarinet Archive - Posting 000037.txt from 2001/03

From: Roger Shilcock <roger.shilcock@-----.uk>
Subj: Re: [kl] Landler of Mozart
Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 11:08:53 -0500

If these traditional musical genres become popular outside their
origianl area of characterization, then musicians who are not involved in the
traditional paths of transmission will be asked to attempt to play in them,
sooner or later - in the way of making a living.
Are they to ignore technical desciptions of how to play in them?
Clearly, plenty have not.
Roger S.

In message <20010227.211218.75@-----.org writes:
> On Tue, 27 Feb 2001 05:57:45 -0800, leeson0@-----.net said:
>
> > I mention these points only because I find Tony's arguments
> > fascinating for two reasons: (1) the arguments are invariably
> > carefully thought out, and (2) the underpinnings of his arguments are
> > very much like the detail one uses in establishing a mathematical
> > proof, so analytical are they.
>
> Thank you for your kind comments, Dan.
>
> I want to say something else, though, because I know that some people
> are very put off by analysis.
>
> The thing is -- what constitutes the Viennese 'lilt' didn't *ever* get
> transmitted by analysis of what happened to individual beats. It was a
> 'feel', something that players absorbed without being able to say what
> they were absorbing.
>
> But when you characterise it as a modification of the equality of beat
> interval, then you need to be quite analytical in order to describe it.
> So, the analytical quality is a function of the *description*, not of
> the reality. If you dance the waltz, then you *play* the waltz
> naturally.
>
> The idea is to take the analysis as a sort of clue as to what you might
> be looking for in the experience, as you try it out; and also, perhaps,
> when you're used to the experience, as a way to fine-tune it.
>
> Tony
> --
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