Klarinet Archive - Posting 000992.txt from 2001/02

From: Daniel Leeson <leeson0@-----.net>
Subj: Re: [kl] Mozart Quintet Mvt. 4
Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 21:19:25 -0500

Jim, in the entire repertoire of Mozart's compositions, I believe there
is not a single triple-time dance identified as a Landler. Thus, if you
believe that the 2nd trio of K. 581 IS a Landler, you must put forward
some evidence that such is the case.

It is not enough to "feel" that those were Mozart's intentions. I can
just as well suggest that he felt it to be a rhumba. How you or I feel
about what he intended to do does not constitute evidence.

Nonetheless, I'm willing to be convinced. What HARD evidence do you
have that that particular dance was popular or even known in Austria ca.
1785-1795, and what has enabled you to reach the conclusion that a
Landler is what Mozart had in mind for that trio.

I'm not trying to be difficult but we are way beyond how you or I feel
about Mozart's intentions. Incidentally, your teacher was correct about
a Landler being a German beer drinking song, but I believe that such was
not the case much before 1825-1850. So we have a calendar problem not
disakin to suggesting that the Charleston was a popular dance in 18th
century Vienna. It just doesn't work.

JMarioneau@-----.com wrote:
>
> When I was studying the quintet back in the dark ages, my teacher told me
> that a "Landler" is like a German beer-drinking folksong. He said that you
> can get the essence of this section of the last movement if you think of a
> German pub with the beer steins swaying back and forth to the music. He said
> this was another one of Mozarts little jokes, putting a beer-drinking song in
> the middle of the quintet. Has anyone else heard this? When you play it
> with that in mind, it does seem to make sense. At the very least it makes it
> interesting. Maybe that has something to do with the fact that I just about
> everyone I met in Norman this past summer drank beer at nearly every meal,
> the concerts were so close to some excellent bars, and beer was even served
> in the lobby of the auditorium, and we will be in New Orleans this summer.
> Any comments?
> James Marioneaux
>
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