Klarinet Archive - Posting 000761.txt from 2001/01

From: "Karl Krelove" <karlkrelove@-----.com>
Subj: [kl] Mouthpiece Comparisons (was Mouthpieces)
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 16:17:55 -0500

Roger,

You've certainly measured more mouthpieces than I. I've not found the
Vandorens I've sampled to be THAT different in their measurements. Their
playing characteristics _are_ often noticeably different. The thing that's
always fascinated me is that I often can't find any explanation for the
differences among the measurements I'm capable of making. In fact, I didn't
find any measurable difference between the 3 M14's I've measured and the
M15's. But I'm very uncomfortable on M14 and very comfortable on M15. BTW,
the M15 has a facing very similar to my Gigliotti P's, with which I can also
play very comfortably, but I need very different reeds to do it. These
mouthpieces are all in the same ballpark, philosophically, if you will,
having all come from the same Chedeville roots (and from whatever stock
Chedeville evolved his mouthpieces). I do think, however, I'm more likely to
get something similar to what Gigliotti uses if I buy a Gigliotti mouthpiece
than I am if I buy an Obrien crystal, for example.

But a young student isn't going to want to deal with the complexities of
classing mouthpieces into general types. He probably won't be able to
without
guidance from a teacher, in which case the whole discussion we've been
having becomes academic because the teacher will help in the selection
process.

With no real quarrel with anything you've said...

Karl Krelove

> -----Original Message-----
> From: rgarrett@-----.edu]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 8:20 AM
> To: klarinet@-----.org
> Subject: RE: [kl] Mouthpieces
>
>
> At 10:36 PM 01/22/2001 -0500, you wrote:
> > > Only if A's M15 is identical to your's. The odds are, it isn't.
> > >
> >This is only necessary if I'm trying the impossible, to sound
> identical to
> >A. But I'm only emulating a general sound quality, a direction. I am very
> >aware of the differences between individual mouthpieces of the same line.
> >But two M15's stand a better statistical chance of being close
> in potential
> >response than an M15 and another maker's or manufacturer's work.
> >
> >Karl
>
> Karl,
>
> You may not be aware that one M15 (I guess we are using random
> numbers.......) may not be anything like another M15 - therefore, they
> don't stand any kind of a "better chance" statistically. If one
> has a tip
> of 1.12 with a curve of 6, 12, 22, 34, and the other has a tip of
> 1.16 and
> a curve of 7, 12, 24, 36..........do you still feel you have a
> statistically better chance of being close in potential tone quality than
> some other mouthpiece? Why do you think so?
>
> My comment had nothing to do with "endorsements and commercial
> interests." It had to do with useful information.
>
> Sincerely,
> Roger Garrett
>
> Roger Garrett
> Clarinet Professor
> Director, Symphonic Winds
> Advisor, IWU Recording Services
> Illinois Wesleyan University
> School of Music
> Bloomington, IL 61702-2900
> Phone: (309) 556-3268
> Fax: (309) 556-3121
>
>
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